12:59 PM anyway
not sure how much you're paying attention to the game
IRL > PB
luddite: yeah i'm pretty distracted right now
i did log in yesterday and check it though
1:00 PM seems like parkin is #1 in everything right now
antisocialmunky: anything interesting on your end?
wow
even in pop?
luddite: um i'm not sure
but at least in gnp, mfg, and food
antisocialmunky: hmmm
I need to log in and check
1:01 PM luddite: still i think that both of us can overtake him
antisocialmunky: yeah
I told plako taht the SoZ location is telling
because tis right next to you
luddite: oh yeah
antisocialmunky: that he fears us much much more right now
luddite: i think he might be trying to culture flip one of my cities
1:02 PM antisocialmunky: its not that weird that you planted is it?
luddite: huh?
antisocialmunky: we saw a city in a weird land/grab spot
that you planted recently
luddite: hmm how recently?
a week ago?
antisocialmunky: well a few turns ago
luddite: oh
1:03 PM antisocialmunky: atleast that's my understanding
LP even whined at us about it
luddite: oh, yeah
that's the one
![wink wink](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/wink2.gif)
why did he whine to you guys lol? does he expect you to care that I grabbed a crappy city site away from him?
1:04 PM antisocialmunky: he swings every bit of info his way
its what he doesl ol
luddite: haha
1:05 PM antisocialmunky: "..since you're currently the only neighbour I fully trust. (Rego of course is constantly twofaced, and Luddite has recently acted very sneakily by breaking a border agreement to found a bizarrely located city right next to me.)"
lol
luddite: ha
1:06 PM antisocialmunky: boohoo my 5 gold, 2 gems
luddite: yeah... i doubt that he'd fully trust you guys either
antisocialmunky: *mr
yeah
luddite: but yeah pretty much
i didn't think he would care so much if i settled there
antisocialmunky: I don't think he cares
he just pretends he does
luddite: ah
1:07 PM i guess he's never had any real conflict this entire game
antisocialmunky: instead
...
well its a long story
well not that long
1:08 PM seems that Nakor + some coalition maybe planning on attacking us for some reason
I'm suspicious whether or not Parkin is behind it
luddite: hmm
antisocialmunky: heard anything about it?
luddite: i did get a message from nakor about a week ago saying that he wanted to talk to me
1:09 PM but i was busy at the time so i never got the chance to talk to him
parkin hasn't said anything about it to me
antisocialmunky: well, real life is real life
luddite: yeah
1:10 PM antisocialmunky: I dunno, if you have time to investigate it, plako would probably be able to make it worth your time
luddite: ok i'll see what i can do
i think after tuesday (after my train trip) i'll have more time to play civ
antisocialmunky: thanks, we'd consider it a great favor. Not sure what we could replay you with
luddite: heh
1:11 PM antisocialmunky: maybe some of Parkin's land :>
luddite: just go to war against parkin ![smile smile](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/smile2.gif)
do you have an NAP with him btw?
antisocialmunky: not officially
but
military strikes are a pain because Krill's map
1:12 PM its hills and jungles through like a bunch of 1 tile wide chokes
luddite: you gotta go by sea :0
antisocialmunky: yes
![smile smile](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/smile2.gif)
onyl way
we aren't really in a position to fight for a little bit
WarriorKnight put up quite a fight
1:13 PM well, cities with walls on hills did
luddite: ah
yeah i was surprised he held out so long after you took his capital
antisocialmunky: well
he ended up abandoning Athens
he lost his whole HA stack for free
and decided to pull north
1:14 PM He actually settled a GG in his last city and spammed up XPed units
luddite: oh i see
antisocialmunky: his last city was SPARTA
which was lol
luddite: haha
well at least he didn't have longbows
1:15 PM antisocialmunky: I think we are pretty much the only ones with LBs
I think that Locke and LP are both racing for liberalism
luddite: sure
i was wondering who will win that
my guess is locke but i'm not sure
or maybe sleeping moogle
antisocialmunky: I think Locke
1:16 PM how is SM doing?
luddite: he doesn't have many cities
so i think he's teching fast
antisocialmunky: seems like he has the quietest chunk of the map
luddite: well, sort of
there's still empty land over there that he can fight over with mackoti and adlain
1:18 PM antisocialmunky: lucky
luddite: haha yeah
antisocialmunky: this crazy diplo is starting to wear thin
luddite: i know... i kinda wish this was a cton game
1:19 PM antisocialmunky: That's what WarlordDr
did
we axe rushed him
luddite: lol
antisocialmunky: I feel bad for WarriorKnight honestly
like
2nd turn he's playing and 2 axes show up
luddite: yeah he didn't know what he was getting in to
antisocialmunky: yeah
his openning was a 4 warrior before settler thing
1:20 PM luddite: haha
antisocialmunky: actually workedo ut really well
he got his settlers before we did
luddite: how is that possible?
antisocialmunky: Cyneheard said soemthing about worker bonus
1:21 PM but
still
insane
luddite: yeah
still, if you build 4 warriors like that, you pretty much have to attack
antisocialmunky: it was weird
he just used them to chase our warriors around
1:22 PM luddite: do you know if he had played much civ before?
1:23 PM antisocialmunky: um
he played a bunch of ladder
I did some google intel gathering
luddite: oh ok
antisocialmunky: one of the guys who subbed for him
1:24 PM was as Speaker put it on one of the Civ4 MP sites
"one of the best MP players in the world"
lol
Metallian
luddite: haha wow
antisocialmunky: was funny
luddite: well i guess ladder games are really different from pitboss though
1:25 PM antisocialmunky: yeah
don't take a whole year
1:26 PM luddite: i know when I do games online i make a lot of silly moves just because there's no time to think
and i have to automate most of the workers
antisocialmunky: it comes with practice and experience
should play SCII
![tongue tongue](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/RBOld/tongue.gif)
workers auto-mine
1:27 PM luddite: haha i used to play broodwar
none of that stupid automine nonsense
antisocialmunky: are you kidding
12 unit limit
luddite: yep
antisocialmunky: no worker rally
luddite: and you can only select one building at a time
antisocialmunky: the weirdest freaking unit AI stuff
like vulture patrol shoot micro
1:28 PM luddite: haha yeah
antisocialmunky: and the DRAGOON AI
fail
luddite: i like zerg just because their units are a little bit smarter
playing protoss is like herding cows
antisocialmunky: zerg was so hard
so many units to control
can't stop making drones
1:29 PM luddite: yeah
antisocialmunky: SCII
you stil lcan't stop making drones but its quite alot easier
kinda
also
probes
still imba
luddite: yeah at least you can do it from all your bases at the same time
antisocialmunky: yeah'
1:30 PM but yeah, probes are still imbalanced
luddite: haha
1:31 PM antisocialmunky: anyway
not sure if there's any concrete tiem table with LP
right now
plako is trying to intimidate Rego
because hes' tired of Rego's games
1:32 PM luddite: haha
antisocialmunky: we really need to do something about LP
would be nice if beserkers went from him instead of us
heck, we have the unit that perfectly counters beserkers...
luddite: haha that is true
antisocialmunky: with vassalage bonus
luddite: oh hey
1:33 PM didn't nakor switch to vassalage?
antisocialmunky: ... I don't pop into the game that often
I hope not but if he's aiming for an attack soonish
makes sense
has no hope but whatever
1:34 PM luddite: yeah
antisocialmunky: I think Rego was moving some catapults around his border so :\
luddite: his power is still really low though
antisocialmunky: yeah I know
makes no sense
luddite: so i have no idea what he's thining
antisocialmunky: Nakor is actually in the perfect spot to boat LP
there's this mountain range
that force LP to go through us to get to Nakor lol
1:35 PM luddite: yeah- but would nakor be able to keep any cities he took?
seems like he would just have to raze them
1:36 PM maybe you guys could trade him a city in exchange for him doing that
antisocialmunky: that's not a bad thing
yeah
maybe
problem is that they dont' seem to be trying to win the game that hard
and in my experience form Risk
1:37 PM its not a good situation to find yourself next to ap layer like that
luddite: ah, true
he might just launch a suicide attack against you
just for fun
1:38 PM it's funny- nakor has no chance to win the game, but he's in a great position to play kingmaker
he could basically attack anyone with berzerkers
antisocialmunky: yup
whenever I'm in a situation liek that
I attack hte strongest player
lol
1:39 PM luddite: haha
1:42 PM antisocialmunky: well anyway
I need to get going
if you need anything form us, just call
been a fun chat
1:43 PM luddite: alright thanks
i'll be in touch
antisocialmunky: good luck with IRL stuff
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luddite: thanks