[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[DMOC]

Wow, so not only do we have to deal with a team that's non responsive to our messages (and who have ignored my recent personal message to them), we also have to deal with a team that refuses to play reloaded turns properly. I agree that I don't want a reload, but I'm almost tempted to put this in the technical thread to make everyone wary of them:

Team Gladiator's Glory,

When we are reloading turns, you are obligated to replay your turn exactly as you had played it. Moving a unit in a different direction can be considered unfair due to knowing extra information based on the first iteration of the turn. While we will not request another reload to keep the game moving, please ensure that in future reloads you avoid these kind of actions.

Sincerely,
Team EggHeads.

Say, did Asterix settle a city on turn 73? Not sure if he should have 6 (if I mistakenly put him as founding a city on turn 73) or 7 (if he settled on both turn 73 and 74).

Regardless, I still think putting our city by the crabs is fine … we're going to need that crab's food and commerce badly, along with the silver's, of course.

[DMOC]

EDIT: Upon second thought, given how GG MIGHT attack us (and I hope not!), do you think we should settle 7 of the silver instead of 9? It essentially replaces the crabs with the inferior riverside snow deer, but it might give us an extra turn or two's worth of units in place in case we need defense, since we will have to road less in order to reach the city. I wish we knew what they were doing.

Also, I'm looking at the map again, and if we settle 9 of the silver, why is building a road on the silver sufficient to connect that city with the others?

-Will try to get a message to Asterix soon...

[TeddyKGB]

Also, I'm looking at the map again, and if we settle 9 of the silver, why is building a road on the silver sufficient to connect that city with the others?

Without road on the silver city won't be connected to empire. Silver will be, but not city.
As I understand, thats how TR works - using two rivers and coast to connect city#6.
Still, we couldn't build mine faster than T78.

ETA for city#6 9 of silver:
T75 - workers road 2/3
T76 - city founded, road done (city#6 connected), silver 1/5
T78 - silver connected to empire (mine done).
T80 - Spear from Stanford on Silver
T81 - borders expanded

In case we plant city 9 of silver, build queue should look like workboat->granary->walls->lighthouse or maybe even walls before granary (after stone connected)

[TeddyKGB]

Hi,
Just to let you know - we met an English chariot 3-3-3-2-2-2 from your fogbusting warrior on your East.
Yuufo

[DMOC]

Also, I'm looking at the map again, and if we settle 9 of the silver, why is building a road on the silver sufficient to connect that city with the others?

Without road on the silver city won't be connected to empire. Silver will be, but not city.
As I understand, thats how TR works - using two rivers and coast to connect city#6.
Still, we couldn't build mine faster than T78.

ETA for city#6 9 of silver:
T75 - workers road 2/3
T76 - city founded, road done (city#6 connected), silver 1/5
T78 - silver connected to empire (mine done).
T80 - Spear from Stanford on Silver
T81 - borders expanded

In case we plant city 9 of silver, build queue should look like workboat->granary->walls->lighthouse or maybe even walls before granary (after stone connected)

1. So the silver will be connected via the river in sixth city, which then connects via coast to Stanford's city? Do you think you can sim just to make sure?

2. By the way, the sixth city should be some abbreviation of "University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign" … I suggest UIllinois.

3. Turn 75, Care Bears founded 2 more cities. (Turn 74, Asterix founded one … let's hope Care Bears did it in their direction.

4. Good plan for the silver city. I agree, Workboat -> Walls -> Granary -> Lighthouse. (Start walls once we get stone connected, though … otherwise just keep bringing military in towards that area.)

5. I still can't think of whether to settle 7 or 9 of the silver. Too much of it depends on how Team GG plays … if you like 9 of silver over 7 I'm okay with that.

[TeddyKGB]

1. Yes, I'm sure.
2. ok
3. I did mention that Yuufo said in chat about expansion. I think his quote about 10-12 cities above.
4. We'll lets see.
5. Time to decide now.

T75, didn't finish turn.
Two important questions:

(1) How to move units in the south.
(2) Where to put EP this turn.

GG moved chariot on silver this turn. What else they moved toward us after reload? Can't tell.
Still, they didn't start spending EP on us yet, I think they planning to attack Dinos, but can't be sure.
Even 3-4 Praets could be trouble for us, tho.

EP is another question. I would like put it on Rome, but maybe its not the right play with them now.
Other possibilities: MM, India, Yos. I talked with Yos about 0/0 EP, but we can chat and explain (ask permission).

I'll be close to PC for the next 4-5 hours. Ready to discuss and finish the turn.

[TeddyKGB]

Where to settle city#6.

First of all, here how trade groups looks like (to make you sure we need a road to connect city):

- With mine on silver, no road (silver connected to all cities except city#6)


- Same with road on silver mine (all connected)


If we settle 7 of silver we don't need road: city would be connected by salt lake.

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Now, I think either way we are not safe from Rome. I mean GG could take our city if he wanted to.
We are slow on transfer defenders there. Even 2-3 chariots could do the trick if GG fast enough to deploy.
And he can deploy AGG+Barracks Praets/Axe/Spear pretty soon, I suppose.
So, the safe thing to do would be not to settle silver city now at all.

Between 2 options (7 or 9 of silver), I think 9 might be a bit safer one.
Yes, its more away from the core, but it can't be attack by chariot from tile 2 of silver.
Sailing is problematic for GG, I don't think he reseached it yet. And we have ally Yos to inform us if GG start research sailing.

Anyway, if we decide to settle near silver, we need some units down there fast. Like 1 spear and 2 Axes.
We also need roading to that city from core and maybe from Cornell as well.
We also should switch to military mode, building 2-3 barracks and Axes.
Research should probably stay on Masonry>Math with option go construction after.

I dont like the position mapmaker put us, I think it's probably the worst position of all 10 teams, but nothing we can do about it.

[TeddyKGB]

About EP this turn.

I think we should put it on Rome.
Its nice they are avoiding spend EP on us, but thats no guarantee they didn't attack us soon.
If we contact Dinos via India fast, we could switch 5-10 turns later.

I'm still think we should consider Dow/ offer peace with short msg we didn't attack any of their units.
Offer OB is another possibility, but that I don't like.

Note, that if we planted city#6 near silver and Rome's chariot moves certain way, we had to kill it on T76-77.

[DMOC]

I think settling the silver is important enough to risk it … and who knows, team GG might play weird and try to get both silver tiles with their next city. Might need to claim it now.

One thing to keep in mind is that we might want to put both our chariots on the workers next turn. I'm not sure how GG are thinking of us but if we pull our units back it might give off a 'friendlier' impression. Still, with them we really can't tell… right now they can attack 1 of our chariots but we do get the river bonus… if that chariot is promotable we may not want to risk it and might put both chariots together on the same tile.

Let's go with 9 of silver. The water tile does help us, so it might make up for being farther away from our cites from a tile perspective.

I assume we're wondering about espionage because we've already hit the limit based on previous deals with all other teams we've met except Yos/Cal and GG? (I.e. Care Bears, SutOxy, Orgy, and MM/Ast)? If so then GG is fine over Yos, wouldd rather not spend any on YosCal.

[TeddyKGB]

Wanna chat now?
I'm chatting with Yos atm, btw.