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Wow, you and rego don't get along, LOL.
Well I guess it doesn't matter if he sells us out. LP isn't that dumb.
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antisocialmunky Wrote:Wow, you and rego don't get along, LOL.
Well I guess it doesn't matter if he sells us out. LP isn't that dumb.
Yeah. It is just that Rego doesn't want to commit to NAP and I'm afraid that pretty much seals the game for LP. We had to keep Rego border protected that makes attacking elsewhere way harder. We'll try nevertheless, but chances of success are pretty low.
Also our sentry HA spotted a stack of ~5 cats and couple of other units between their border cities.
T156
We got gold pop near Yaba and founded Oatus.
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Not that an NAP means anything in game. I rather use threat and counter threat. Our future navy can equally threaten his and LP's cities.
I think you're pushing them too hard and not really making them trust/like (or whatever metric that team uses) you. I also think 2 people negotiating is confusing the hell out of them since I'm playing with different terms than you.
You're wanting a real hard NAP that will in their eyes win us the game like LP did with everyone (LOL) and I'm offering "don't mess with us until LP is done. Its in both our interesting." Afterall, we'll still have a crap ton of boats and we can strike their coastal cities quite convincingly while on the peninsula we basically burning a ton of pop for emergency defense ( into rifles ) against probably tech half an era behind.
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With most players I agree. However I've followed enough of Rego's games. His offer: "at the moment we've no intrest to fight" gives us no security. Whenever he sees an opening he will use it. With Rego I need a solid deal.
I clearly have screwed my relationship with him. Big part of it is LP's excellent diplo 1st suggesting a campaign against Rego and then putting us against each other with diplo leaks. Final insult was giving helping hand to Rego that pretty much sealed our relationship.
I'll keep low profile towards Rego now. Maybe after 10T or so I'll retry, but I don't see much point with a dialogue.
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He seems to like me better. His rationale about keeping us on our toes without a good NAP is that we'll be too powerful and win. I told him that if LP is defeated, SOMEONE will have his land and that they should get their share of it.
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Quote:Hi guys,
I did talk things over with sunrise a bit today, though we were hampered by some poor internet connections. But I think we can agree that we would be willing to sign a NAP through Turn 180 with the following conditions for the duration of the NAP:
* China stops spending EPs on Zulu
* Zulu may spend some EPs on China to the point where both civs have the others graphs. At that point, either side may spend EPs on the other
* Our two nations return to the previous arrangement of open borders (open for economic purposes but no units may go in the other's borders without permission
Our preference as stated would be a short-term T180 NAP so that we can begin to regain the trust on both sides that was recently damaged. If you feel that T180 is not enough, we would probably be okay with accepting ASM's suggestion from today of a 30 turn NAP (from this turn T157 up to but not including T187).
Let us know your thoughts
dan.
regoarrarr
zulu
Lets ink a deal.
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That deal is not long enough and benefits mainly him. I'll think about.
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Building lots of wealth. I collect little gold since Rego is finishing CS. I don't want to show others our max gold output so I dialed the slider to 20%.
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It pays to be more patient with these things. He's not going to give you what doesn't favor him when he's dealing with someone ahead.
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Alright I accepted the deal until T187.
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Great, now we can focus on figuring out how to kill LP atleast for a month until the NAP comes up for renewal. 
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“I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money.”
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