Some threat of closing borders and we got reply from Orgy.
Quote:Dear TeddyKGB and rest of our eastern neighbours.
I am sorry for that warrior, but It was not intentional. I am retreating it out of your borders. I'll chech why it did it, but I am fully aware of our current deals.
I am logging in a few minutes and will fix this ASAP.
At an another matter: I am open for connecting our roads together for a foreign trade. If this is what both parts want, we may prosper with a higher commerce.
Once again: Really sorry for the warrior.
-Okay, glad we have Orgynized responding to us. We need to at least set a long NAP with them. With Rome down south and Asterix acting a little weird, I don't really have any qualms with peace with Orgynized. I'll get to work on a revised set of agreements soon.
-I am a little disappointed at Asterix for obsessing over that one single comment you made, which was probably just out of thin air … if he wants us to make a lot of concessions I'm not sure if we can really work with him. But we'll keep hoping.
-What do you think of my comments regarding the empire management a few posts ago?
Arki and me chatting right now, lol. I hope not to ruined everything in diplo.
But he looks like a nice guy.
That was one comment. We were talked about later. I was tried both our team be happy. Take a look on previos chat before that quote. Why woud Asterix not include it?
LexIVn (03:04:10 11/11/2013)
nice to meet u, sir
forget all stuff i post in tech tread pls
LexIVn (03:04:22 11/11/2013)
us= DMOC+me
knupet@gmail.com (03:04:27 11/11/2013)
oh, I do like to have a laugh
LexIVn (03:05:08 11/11/2013)
heh, me too, even its laugh on me
knupet@gmail.com (03:05:25 11/11/2013)
ok. Yeah, I feel that right now I am trying my best to control our situation and be the turn-player, with LP monitoring and advising
LexIVn (03:05:42 11/11/2013)
do u have backup?
knupet@gmail.com (03:05:49 11/11/2013)
so yeah, It counts as LP playing
LexIVn (03:05:57 11/11/2013)
i heard WilliamLP leave too
LexIVn (03:07:28 11/11/2013)
wanna talk about some deals?
or metagame in general?
LexIVn (03:08:20 11/11/2013)
i have some info to share too, but expect it wont be one way street
knupet@gmail.com (03:08:44 11/11/2013)
I am open for any chatting to be honest, but it is quite late so unless it is very clear for me it will me more discussing than accepting anything
LexIVn (03:09:10 11/11/2013)
when u have 30-45 min to chat?
LexIVn (03:09:37 11/11/2013)
we cant ignore diplo between our teems
knupet@gmail.com (03:10:02 11/11/2013)
30 is possible :9
LexIVn (03:10:42 11/11/2013)
ok, its a first chat with u so no commitment here
knupet@gmail.com (03:10:55 11/11/2013)
Please do discuss now, if you want :-)
LexIVn (03:11:32 11/11/2013)
just lets discuss now if we could be friends for 50-200 next turns
knupet@gmail.com (03:12:09 11/11/2013)
ehm... 200 turns is very long time
LexIVn (03:12:29 11/11/2013)
oh, u know what i meant
knupet@gmail.com (03:12:53 11/11/2013)
how about eternal marriage and some kids on the side?
LexIVn (03:12:57 11/11/2013)
no need commit to 200t ally or so
just try to build some bridges
LexIVn (03:14:01 11/11/2013)
did u scout SE of ur core?
knupet@gmail.com (03:14:13 11/11/2013)
But I am not sure about the screenshots
knupet@gmail.com (03:14:31 11/11/2013)
is it right to do that before paper?
LexIVn (03:14:41 11/11/2013)
yes it is
knupet@gmail.com (03:14:43 11/11/2013)
I find it not logical at least
LexIVn (03:15:00 11/11/2013)
rules are in tech thread
knupet@gmail.com (03:15:18 11/11/2013)
I've sent a unit towards SE, yeah. Why?
LexIVn (03:15:28 11/11/2013)
i specifically ask about it and LP answer its ok
LexIVn (03:15:54 11/11/2013)
in case u need ss from ur SE
LexIVn (03:16:14 11/11/2013)
we've sent u ss already
LexIVn (03:16:27 11/11/2013)
like a month ago
knupet@gmail.com (03:16:37 11/11/2013)
I am currently looking after it in our thread
knupet@gmail.com (03:16:55 11/11/2013)
but it seems there are 2 SS here, yeah.
knupet@gmail.com (03:17:11 11/11/2013)
What are you currently searching after in the screenshots?
LexIVn (03:17:30 11/11/2013)
truth? nothing
LexIVn (03:17:42 11/11/2013)
we got all info we need so far
LexIVn (03:17:56 11/11/2013)
just tried to build some bridges
LexIVn (03:18:07 11/11/2013)
with ur team
knupet@gmail.com (03:18:12 11/11/2013)
I am thou open for something nice
LexIVn (03:18:18 11/11/2013)
like?
knupet@gmail.com (03:18:58 11/11/2013)
concidering our friendship I propose a route between our lands, so we may profit from higher trade revenues
knupet@gmail.com (03:20:01 11/11/2013)
binding your western and our eastern city, we will gain a increased commerce that will benefit both of us as long as we stay in peace
LexIVn (03:20:03 11/11/2013)
truth again, we dont need ur TR
we are have else teams TR atm
but for diplo reason we might listen
knupet@gmail.com (03:20:20 11/11/2013)
ah...
LexIVn (03:20:46 11/11/2013)
as u know, we have sea trade route with u long time ago too
knupet@gmail.com (03:21:00 11/11/2013)
lol... I should have known
knupet@gmail.com (03:21:14 11/11/2013)
my fault
LexIVn (03:21:18 11/11/2013)
np
LexIVn (03:21:28 11/11/2013)
we have sailing, u dont
LexIVn (03:22:02 11/11/2013)
we are not profit from u now
all our TR with other teams
LexIVn (03:22:27 11/11/2013)
actually we lose more than gain via TR now
knupet@gmail.com (03:23:08 11/11/2013)
How can you lose more than gain from trade routes? please enlighten me
LexIVn (03:23:50 11/11/2013)
we have OB with several teams
import/export is -6 for us right now
knupet@gmail.com (03:24:02 11/11/2013)
ah... ofc
knupet@gmail.com (03:24:28 11/11/2013)
I hope that you are not sharing borders with India
knupet@gmail.com (03:24:39 11/11/2013)
OB I mean
LexIVn (03:25:00 11/11/2013)
well, u hope is crushed
knupet@gmail.com (03:25:11 11/11/2013)
awwww
knupet@gmail.com (03:25:15 11/11/2013)
pity
LexIVn (03:25:44 11/11/2013)
we dont had good diplo with u so far and we need a trade partner
knupet@gmail.com (03:26:17 11/11/2013)
In their current situation, their OB-trade is fuealing their economy and to be honest... I hope they get broke as fast as possible
LexIVn (03:26:40 11/11/2013)
we are very carefull with long term deals with anyone tho
knupet@gmail.com (03:26:58 11/11/2013)
Have you concidered TGLH?
LexIVn (03:27:22 11/11/2013)
not yet
i'm surprissed it didnt land yet
LexIVn (03:27:41 11/11/2013)
maybe we'll one turn it next turn
LexIVn (03:28:13 11/11/2013)
i supose u after GLh and Mids?
knupet@gmail.com (03:28:45 11/11/2013)
did not catch the last sentence
LexIVn (03:29:15 11/11/2013)
about us one turn build GLh?
knupet@gmail.com (03:30:54 11/11/2013)
be my guest with GLH. Since we don't got sailing, as you said... I am not focused on that wonder
LexIVn (03:31:41 11/11/2013)
damn, i'm sux at diplo
LexIVn (03:31:52 11/11/2013)
no, we wont build GLh
knupet@gmail.com (03:32:17 11/11/2013)
It's ok :-)
LexIVn (03:32:54 11/11/2013)
why do u have no sailing yet?
LexIVn (03:33:26 11/11/2013)
u know sutoxy finished calendar on t80?
knupet@gmail.com (03:36:31 11/11/2013)
I am currently reading what information Parkin has shared with you and what I think I may offer you, but I still find out that it is not much. Mostly because I am not sure what to share with you... I guess I suck at diplo as much as you
LexIVn (03:37:26 11/11/2013)
no, u suck worse
at least i share something
LexIVn (03:37:35 11/11/2013)
jk
knupet@gmail.com (03:37:38 11/11/2013)
:-P
knupet@gmail.com (03:38:31 11/11/2013)
Oh! If I make a missionary, do you accept our religion for happiness and prosper?
LexIVn (03:38:51 11/11/2013)
what turn u can deliver?
LexIVn (03:38:56 11/11/2013)
missionary
LexIVn (03:39:52 11/11/2013)
as u understand, we have similar offer from India
knupet@gmail.com (03:40:49 11/11/2013)
can I hear your proposition from India?
LexIVn (03:41:00 11/11/2013)
no I cant
LexIVn (03:41:17 11/11/2013)
confidentiality and all that shit
LexIVn (03:41:52 11/11/2013)
stil, I think India kick ur asses with Oracle
LexIVn (03:42:13 11/11/2013)
i was sure u could land it before t60
knupet@gmail.com (03:45:05 11/11/2013)
I am currently not online on my gaming computer and I just thought about the missionary just now, so I have to make it first. When it comes to India and the Oracle, we never even focused on the Oracle, so we did not feel it as a loss or an asskicking. Currently I am thinking that India will most likely kick someone else's ass than ours.
knupet@gmail.com (03:47:06 11/11/2013)
All deals towards India is fueling their economy and prosperety, so accepting a missionary of India is either allying them or fueling their economy, so I thing not accepting their missionary should be obvious
knupet@gmail.com (03:50:10 11/11/2013)
What I can do is to log on tomorrow, see if there is anything I may offer that India can't and maybe sweeten the deal, but I would really like to know where you are currently standing in the diplomatic soup of northern lands. Are you concidering India as a friend, as an ally, as someone you will break NAPs with (as earlier discussed) ?
LexIVn (03:50:12 11/11/2013)
If India kick someone, they became even more stronger
LexIVn (03:53:42 11/11/2013)
We are respect our deals like u r.
Why would u ask about breaking NAP?
India is a pain, but we wont suicide against it just to make other teams happy, u should understand.
knupet@gmail.com (03:56:32 11/11/2013)
So... here is a promise: I will be online here on approx the same time here so we may talk more tomorrow. I will take some SS, look through my lands and try come up to some suggestions that may benefit both lands and maybe halt India. I hope you got time for an another chat tomorrow
LexIVn (03:57:15 11/11/2013)
Anything u need from me?
screenshots or info?
LexIVn (03:57:35 11/11/2013)
one more thing before u go
knupet@gmail.com (03:57:57 11/11/2013)
An open mind and you try think about every possible scenario that may happen
LexIVn (03:58:09 11/11/2013)
think about border agreement u could agree
LexIVn (03:58:30 11/11/2013)
we are both had to start settle that land soon
LexIVn (03:58:55 11/11/2013)
and our team is pressed by india now
knupet@gmail.com (04:01:54 11/11/2013)
ah... I am going to take that up and have a small proposition there: I think we should try to divide it fairly.
LexIVn (04:02:16 11/11/2013)
i'm all up for fair
knupet@gmail.com (04:02:24 11/11/2013)
cool
LexIVn (04:03:05 11/11/2013)
it was nice talking with u
i had to go for 30-40 min
i will gladly chat again after
LexIVn (04:03:23 11/11/2013)
or tomorrow if u like
knupet@gmail.com (04:03:24 11/11/2013)
I will look on that tomorrow... now I have to sleep. I have to be awake in 5 hours now.
knupet@gmail.com (04:03:47 11/11/2013)
Good night :-)
LexIVn (04:04:04 11/11/2013)
gn
thank u for talking
lets keep connected
CM: Keep growing while working the lighthouse. Perhaps grow back to size 7, then slow-build a worker? Also, do we want to continue working 2 scientists after turn 84? It might be a while before any city can get a new Great Scientist…
MIT: Grow to size 6 while finishing up barracks, then at size 6 either a worker or a military unit.
Stanford: Why don't we put hammers into library this turn, but we can switch back to the axe on turn 83 to have it done on turn 84? That axe will ideally go to Illinois. I would not whip the library just yet … we need the citizen working the four cottages we have. I'm finally glad we got a riverside cottage there!
Berkeley: Yes, library is fine.
Cornell: Want to grow to size 5, then whip a worker?
Illinois: Not much to say here …
Washington: Lighthouse next, as expected. The workboat will be there shortly …
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Workers: Do we have any available who can finish the road connection to Illinois? Some things we need:
1. Road to Illinois (as previously mentioned)
2. A few workers near Berkeley to either pre-chop or road on forests (in case we can get Hanging Gardens)
3. Possibly 1 worker to build another cottage or mine in the MIT/CM area. (yes, we need more)
4. Several workers near Cornell to cottage city #8 (Princeton). We should use the workers who finish the stone imo.
Maybe low priority: cottage another tile of Stanford? Right now Stanford is working 3 that the capital can claim, and Stanford will eventually be a great cottage city when it can grow larger.
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New cities: How about we found city 8 in your spot, then possibly city 9 (or 10, 11) on the grass hill 3 of the corn? It'll be our eastern-most front and on a hill so possibly useful against Care Bears later on. We can found another city south for the deer, but that needs to wait until later (and it's low priority anyway).
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Technology: After Mathematics, I think we should either head to Monarchy (picking up some cheap religious techs on the way) or Currency. Our cities are already approaching or at their happiness limits, so Monarchy would be a great help in that regard. Construction might make sense if we need to war, but I'm not sure if we want to commit ourselves to it that early.
Some random thoughts.
CM has 10t till it cioud grow to size7. Next turn it will give pigs to MIT, while grow to size6 (max happy). It maybe not a good idea to whip cap before Academy, but we are kinda behind on expansion already. CM will work fish+deer+4*hamlets after academy.
MIT ok. We'll grow it a bit and could whip worker/settler with some overflow after
Stan Library it is. I was thinking about some operation vs Antium soon, but Axe wont help us on offensive.
UC ok
Cornell. maybe, we'll get city#8 near soon. I still thinking about Mids in Cornell.
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I agree on workers action in general.
City#8 could have 3 workers next turn. I should sim to farm Corn asap there. One worker will start chop into granary, it will be math chop.
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I did started to talk about borders with Arki via chat. Lets see how he response and what he see as 'fairly'.
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I was set on Currency mostly. Or construction if Rome dont behave. We have till T86 to decide, I guess.
Put 2EP on Asterix, we'll see GGs graphs next turn anyway. Just wanna know his research.
Next turn I'll close resource deal with him, maybe OB too if you do not say otherwise.
I'll work with Yuufo to make him close borders with Asterix as well. Its counter productive in a long run, I know, but I wanna punish him.
Worker near UWash moved to chop into UC. He could stop 1 turn from complition and start cottage, then complete chop when we are ready.
1. What deals do we have with Asterix? I wouldn't cancel all of them just yet … I'm just not seeing a reason to antagonize/punish him any further, and doing so will increase Care Bears' advantage over both of us. I'd rather us just keep what we're doing, but if you have a compelling argument I can be persuaded otherwise… also if we're headed for Currency, we might want all the open borders we can get, and Asterix's capital will give us more income than one of Care Bears' fringe cities.
2. OK, I was thinking of Monarchy OR Currency. Getting either tech would help our economy, maybe Currency mores (it's an immediate boost). But are we in agreement that if Rome doesn't present a problem that Monarchy and Currency are our two biggest priorities now? That is, after getting one, we should beeline the other? Unless we want Code of Laws, Calendar, Metal Casting, or stuff like that … say, is the religion from Monotheism still available?
3. Now that we want to negotiate with Team Orgynized, what do you want to modify based on my previous message below?
Quote:Team Orgynized,
It's been a while since we talked, so I just want to touch base with you again. As you know, our current NAP expires on turn 90. We also have deals involving (1) espionage limitations, (2) confidentiality of messages, (3) no-scouting without consent, and (4) no settling more than 5 tiles from our capitals in our directions.
At the moment, we don't see a need to change much of our deals, other than extend a NAP. Thus, Team EggHeads would like to offer a deal extension, with the following details:
1. NAP until turn 120.
2. Starting on turn 90, no settling more than seven tiles from our capitals in our respective directions (west for us, east for you) without each other's consent. We stick with the five tile restriction that was set in our last deal, but basically alter it on turn 90 to allow both of us to expand further.
3. No espionage spending unless we agree to both spend to even things out.
4. Open Borders.
5. No-scouting without consent.
6. A continuation of confidentiality of our agreements.
As far as the game goes, how is your civilization doing? Right now, we are busy trying to expand to catch up to the rapid pace of Care Bears and SutOxy's expansion, but we're also balancing things out by trying to get an early Great Scientist to hopefully make up for being non-financial.
Sincerely,
DMOC of Team EggHeads
I'm going to have to go back and see what other NAPs we have, and if any are close to expiring…
-Say, about the Great Scientist … come the next turn, we might just be the first civilization to get a Great Person! :good job:
EDIT: South units, I wouldn't raze Rome's city … doing so will just make us the target instead of (hopefully) the English team. Of course, should Rome already be at war with them, we should make some opportunistic strikes.
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