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Lord Parkin · March 18th, 2011, 19:08

Long chat with Rego. Summary:

He's expressed interest in some kind of plan to take down plako, though at this point I think he's just saying things he thinks I want to hear - he's certainly not capable of doing anything anytime soon. Maybe later we'll be able to arrange something though.

Overall I've found him a to be rather cagey in diplomacy... not ideal ally material in my opinion. Not sure if he's just busy, but it seems a lot of the time he doesn't reciprocate with information he requests from me. I often have to ask about things multiple times before he tells me things when I've told him much more. Maybe it's just coincidence though.

He also seems to be trying to pretend he has little to no room for some reason, and that he got "screwed over" by the map. I don't really believe that for a second, and don't quite understand why he's trying to play the "screwed over" card when we both know that's unlikely to be true. Perhaps he's telling the truth, but I kind of doubt it.

Lord Parkin · March 18th, 2011, 19:33

Had another chat with luddite. Summary:

- Helped him with directions to meet some of the civs I've met but he hasn't.
- Talked for a while about Plako. Luddite seems genuinely concerned about him, so we might have a friend there later on if we want to try for a big anti-plako alliance.
- Luddite asked about Nakor's plans regarding borders and invasions (based on his high power rating), and I said I'd let him know if I found out anything.
- Discussed score increases and tried to work out between us what some other civs were up to. Discussed what some of them might be doing wrong to be so far behind in expansion - SleepingMoogle in particular. Also debated whether Rego's strategy will prove worth it in the long run (probably).
- Apparently he's working on the Settler that he'll use to block mackoti off. Wonder how mackoti will respond there. Luddite seems reasonably confident that he can hold the chokepoint regardless of how things go.

Lord Parkin · March 18th, 2011, 20:02

Sent a message to Plako.

Quote:Hi Plako,

Just thought we'd drop you a line to let you know we've met Rego and Adlain. Only Locke and WarriorKnight to go for us, and then we'll be able to start spamming in the UN thread with you. (Which is of course the main objective here. )

We've got a Scout heading down towards your northern border, by the way. If you can give us any tips about how we might meet WarriorKnight as quickly as possible, that'd be much appreciated.

Hope things are going well for you. Certainly seems that the demographics are rather in your favour at the moment!

Let us know if we can help with anything, information or otherwise. For one thing, I imagine at some point in the future we'll have some trade routes opening up, so we'll potentially be able to trade resources and gain extra gold through Open Borders with one another. That could obviously be quite beneficial for both of us.

Anyway, keep in touch.

Kind regards,
Lord Parkin

No particular purpose at the moment apart from keeping the diplomatic channels open. Still looks unlikely that we'll want to cooperate with him in the end, if he continues to keep his lead in the demographics, but things could change. No sense losing a potential friend through lack of contact. smile

Lord Parkin · March 19th, 2011, 03:09

Reply from Mackoti:

Quote:Hi,
Ty for direction, congrats on you too for the 5 cities, I think you are a real competitor for him having like 3 sources of great income(2 gold mines, and a gem one). If i had that kind of fortune i would rex like mad(what i was telling about 8 cities, i think you aford to get that before turn 90).You are doing a great job.

About placko he is creative and he already got alot of points from his culture,but righ now you are way beter than him you can get larger cities(stonehenge and charismatic),even my time will came when courthose lighose, forges came in play.

Where is plako? I met just his scout.Did i told you abot the Mids? I dont remember doing that.Hmmmm.

regards,
Mackoti

Amusing that he doesn't remember his chat with us about the Pyramids. How many people did he tell, considering that he now can't remember who he did and didn't? lol

Lord Parkin · March 19th, 2011, 06:02

Reply from Plako:

Quote:Hi Lord Parkin,
Good the hear that your scouting has had good progress. I'm happy to help you finding missing nations. I can't see you, but if you're straight north from my capital there is narrow land passage NE from our capital that you could use to find WarriorKnight at least for the moment. Our culture will probably seal the access in ~20T. There might also be alternate long route a bit north, but I haven't yet fully scouted it.

Opening borders is also alright, but it takes a while before we can establish trade routes I think. No sailing or road at the moment and land passages might block sea routes even after sailing.

Best regards,
Plako

Lord Parkin · March 19th, 2011, 06:03

Reply from Nakor:

Quote:Hey LP,

Good to hear you are meeting everyone as well! And thanks for OB.

Getting a deal with Plako is a bit more troublesome then we expected, but we hope to get a mutual beneficial deal.
If not, we might have to resort to force... we do have a nice standing army just in case.

How is your relationship with Plako so far?

Kind regards,
Nakor

Lord Parkin · March 19th, 2011, 16:05

I have to say, that last part of the most recent message from Nakor couldn't have been a more open invitation to find out a bunch of information with the right reply. tongue

This:

Quote:How is your relationship with Plako so far?

Effectively translates to this:

Quote:Would you like to hear more juicy gossip about our plans regarding Plako? [ ] Yes [ ] No

No way would I say no to that, even if I were actually Plako's ally. lol

As it happens, I'm naturally leaning towards Nakor's side anyway (so far), so it's all the easier to write the response that will (hopefully) get us more information. smile

Lord Parkin · March 19th, 2011, 16:35

Sent a message to Nakor. Debated for a while about the tone - tried to think from a perspective of "what if Plako sees this later on?". Eventually decided it didn't really matter much, as it seems rather unlikely that it'll be relevant. I figure we're unlikely to want to ally with Plako anyway, but in the situation that we do, it's likely that Nakor will already be dead anyway. Besides, the risk of him seeing anything is fairly non-existent as long as we keep Nakor happy, which doesn't seem hard. And it's not as if we're saying anything particularly hostile anyway, just talking about perhaps going after him later on if he's still got an insane lead, which I'm sure everyone in the game is thinking right now.

(Plako, if you're reading this after the game, I wasn't picking on you just for the sake of it - you really did have an insane and worrying lead at this point, and it's natural that we wanted to support anyone opposing that lead.) wink

Quote:Hi Nakor,

Thanks for the Open Borders, our Warrior's now passing through to the west to find Locke. Any tips on which way to head to meet him the quickest - straight west, southwest, northwest?

Our relationship with Plako so far hasn't really been great. We haven't talked much since meeting... not sure if it's because of a lack of time or just because Plako's been concentrating on other things. In any event, he's kind of our natural rival at the moment: running away with the game with insane food and production demographics (pretty much double ours), as well as being our second-nearest land neighbour who we'll - presumably - eventually share a southern border with. So right now we basically have every reason to root against him, and every reason to help out his rivals in any way we can.

It's interesting to hear that you're considering war against Plako. If that goes ahead, we wish you all the best of luck. We'd be keen to help you out, but this early in the game we're probably too far to do much at all (I think there's still about 25 empty tiles between us). However, later on when the gap has closed, we'd certainly be keen to talk further about options with you, especially if he's still miles ahead in all the demographics (and I don't see why he wouldn't keep or build on his current lead). It seems pretty natural to want to take out the runaway civ in a game, and it sure looks like that's what Plako's developing into.

Anyway, hope that's useful to you. We'd be keen to hear anything more about your situation with Plako, so do keep in contact! Obviously we ask that you don't pass on anything we've said to Plako or anyone else - we won't pass on anything you've said either.

Kind regards,
Lord Parkin

Lord Parkin · March 19th, 2011, 16:45

Brief chat with Plako:

Looks like we'll meet WarriorKnight this turn or next up near SleepingMoogle anyway, so this might be irrelevant. Still, nice of him to point us in the right direction.

Lord Parkin · March 19th, 2011, 16:59

Message sent to Mackoti. He's actually turning into a reasonable friend, after we got past that initial hiccup of him neglecting to contact us for 2 weeks while he pursued Stonehenge. tongue

Perhaps we could end up as close allies at some point after all... we'll see. wink

Quote:Hi Mackoti,

Thanks for your kind words. I think I'm still a very long way off competing with Plako, at least in food and production. (He's almost doubling my yields in both, which will put him far ahead in growth and strength for a long time to come.) However, I am indeed intending on making the most of my land in the future, planning on 8-10 cities before turn 100, and many more afterwards.

I'm sure you'll build up a strong empire too over the next few dozen turns, and it will be good to have you as another strong player out there. Plako is certainly a long way from having this game in the bag, especially if we both have anything to say about it.

Plako is located directly south of me, east of Nakor, and west of WarriorKnight. If your exploring unit is the one I think it is (the Warrior heading south down the land bridge from our land?), then you should soon run into Plako's border if you continue south (and a little east). Not sure exactly where that Warrior of yours is at the moment, but I recall my scout passed him a few turns back, so you're maybe 5-10 tiles from plako's border now? If you give us a more exact location we can give you more exact directions.

Yes, you did tell me about the Pyramids in an in-game chat we had a while ago about wonder plans. You don't have to worry - I won't be competing with you there. I also understand both Luddite and SleepingMoogle aren't trying for the Pyramids either, and I don't see how any of the non-Industrious civs could realistically compete with you. So I think you should almost certainly get the wonder, which will definitely put you in a strong position for the remainder of the game.

Kind regards,
Lord Parkin

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