Well, I didn't even need to get in contact with Luddite... he got in contact with me. Seems pretty certain his sights are set on Mackoti and not us.
Luddite: hey
me: Hi there
Luddite: what's up?
me: not much
just founding new cities, nothing ground-breaking...
how about yourself?
Luddite: well
i guess you've seen my power graph lately?
me: indeed
looks like you're planning something there
Luddite: yeah
me: I presume Mackoti can see your demographics too
Luddite: i decided it's just not going to work, playing defense all the time against mackoti
so i need to go on the offense
me: Sounds fair enough
It's pretty much impossible to coexist with an aggressive/untrustworthy neighbour
Luddite: yeah that's what i figured
also, if he takes all that land, i'm dead in the long term
me: Yeah... you need to secure a decent chunk for survival in the long run
I presume he's not letting you have much or any of it?
Luddite: haha, no
me: heh
Luddite: pretty hard to share it anyway
me: ah well, luckily you have a UU extremely relevant to a war now, while he doesn't at all. Plus of course the whole massive production thing...
Yeah, I guess so
Luddite: yeah
well it'll be interesting to see how the vultures do
in some cases they're a liability, you know
me: Yeah, I haven't used them much myself, but I know that unpromoted they lose in the open field against axes
using terrain/promotions to your advantage should fix things though
Luddite: right
me: I'll be interested to see how it goes, don't know if I've ever actually seen them in action. People don't often pick Sumeria to play with...
At least in the games I've played so far
Luddite: yeah i'm not used to using sumeria either
me: (MP)
Luddite: anyway, i just wanted to ask you if you would be willing to use your warrior as a scout for me
me: Yeah, I could help out there
There's one Axe of Mackoti's just to the west of your land down there, not sure if you can see it
That's all I've seen so far
Luddite: i'm aware of it
he has a chariot there somewhere, too
i think that's basically his entire military for right now
so i mean, unless he starts whipping immediately, he's got no chance
me: seems like it... his power isn't very high
indeed
should be nice and easy, at least at first... and that should at least claim the chokepoint, if not more
Luddite: yeah
well anyway, any information you can give me would be much appreciated
me: Ok, I'll keep you informed
Luddite: and, i mean, not giving any information to mackoti
i'll try to repay you at some point in the future, since you've helped me so much
me: Of course, I won't pass anything on to Mackoti. My loyalties lie with you, and I wouldn't want to support a NAP breaker anyway.
Luddite: haha, thanks
me: Cool
I think I'll have Currency sometime around turn 101 or thereabouts, so we'll be able to trade gold from that point onwards (if not before).
Luddite: ok
me: Not sure if it'll be useful or needed, but figured I'd mention it anyway
me: Hi there
Luddite: what's up?
me: not much
just founding new cities, nothing ground-breaking...
how about yourself?
Luddite: well
i guess you've seen my power graph lately?
me: indeed
looks like you're planning something there
Luddite: yeah
me: I presume Mackoti can see your demographics too
Luddite: i decided it's just not going to work, playing defense all the time against mackoti
so i need to go on the offense
me: Sounds fair enough
It's pretty much impossible to coexist with an aggressive/untrustworthy neighbour
Luddite: yeah that's what i figured
also, if he takes all that land, i'm dead in the long term
me: Yeah... you need to secure a decent chunk for survival in the long run
I presume he's not letting you have much or any of it?
Luddite: haha, no
me: heh
Luddite: pretty hard to share it anyway
me: ah well, luckily you have a UU extremely relevant to a war now, while he doesn't at all. Plus of course the whole massive production thing...
Yeah, I guess so
Luddite: yeah
well it'll be interesting to see how the vultures do
in some cases they're a liability, you know
me: Yeah, I haven't used them much myself, but I know that unpromoted they lose in the open field against axes
using terrain/promotions to your advantage should fix things though
Luddite: right
me: I'll be interested to see how it goes, don't know if I've ever actually seen them in action. People don't often pick Sumeria to play with...
At least in the games I've played so far
Luddite: yeah i'm not used to using sumeria either
me: (MP)
Luddite: anyway, i just wanted to ask you if you would be willing to use your warrior as a scout for me
me: Yeah, I could help out there
There's one Axe of Mackoti's just to the west of your land down there, not sure if you can see it
That's all I've seen so far
Luddite: i'm aware of it
he has a chariot there somewhere, too
i think that's basically his entire military for right now
so i mean, unless he starts whipping immediately, he's got no chance
me: seems like it... his power isn't very high
indeed
should be nice and easy, at least at first... and that should at least claim the chokepoint, if not more
Luddite: yeah
well anyway, any information you can give me would be much appreciated
me: Ok, I'll keep you informed
Luddite: and, i mean, not giving any information to mackoti
i'll try to repay you at some point in the future, since you've helped me so much
me: Of course, I won't pass anything on to Mackoti. My loyalties lie with you, and I wouldn't want to support a NAP breaker anyway.
Luddite: haha, thanks
me: Cool
I think I'll have Currency sometime around turn 101 or thereabouts, so we'll be able to trade gold from that point onwards (if not before).
Luddite: ok
me: Not sure if it'll be useful or needed, but figured I'd mention it anyway