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DaveV · April 27th, 2011, 11:34

I've seen a lot of confusion and questions about the power rating of units in the Fall from Heaven mod. Here's a table listing every single unit in Civ4UnitInfos.xml, along with its iPower number. I've put it in spoilers and attached it, since there are 325 units.

... and, just for completeness, the building and tech power ratings. Buildings:

Techs:

Thoth · April 27th, 2011, 12:12

Great stuff. smile

Thank you.

Sciz · April 27th, 2011, 13:06

so this is all in thousands right

Selrahc · April 27th, 2011, 13:12

Quote:BUILDING_PALACE_INFERNAL, 1000
BUILDING_PALACE_MERCURIANS, 1000

Oh. Interesting. I knew they got a massive power hike from something.

So if the Elohim build one of those palaces, then they get the power boost too? Could be useful to strongarm the AI.

DaveV · April 27th, 2011, 13:15

Sciz Wrote:so this is all in thousands right

Right.

Caustic Soda · April 27th, 2011, 13:18

Thanks for providing these lists, DaveV. They're pretty interesting.

Hmnn, seems like units have been weighted by tier instead of individually. Not the most precise of choices, IMO, although it's hardly all that central. the high and equal power ratings for priest and disciples seems especially misleading. Axeman being weighted higher than Pyre Zombies or Sons of the Inferno is just laughable.

Likewise with buildings. Palisades and walls give power, but the Altar doesn't? LOLwut. These power ratings could do with some editing, although I'd hardly put them at the top of my list if I were to make a modmod.

Square Leg · April 28th, 2011, 09:08

Nice work DaveV!

I have been looking for these and managed to get some stuff out with Sciz one time - but it is so much easier when you don't have to look through pages of other stuff.

Sareln · May 5th, 2011, 11:40

Caustic Soda Wrote:Thanks for providing these lists, DaveV. They're pretty interesting.

Hmnn, seems like units have been weighted by tier instead of individually. Not the most precise of choices, IMO, although it's hardly all that central. the high and equal power ratings for priest and disciples seems especially misleading. Axeman being weighted higher than Pyre Zombies or Sons of the Inferno is just laughable.

Likewise with buildings. Palisades and walls give power, but the Altar doesn't? LOLwut. These power ratings could do with some editing, although I'd hardly put them at the top of my list if I were to make a modmod.

Updating Unit Power Ratings:

How does the following Formula Sound for FfH Units?

iPower = (Total Base Strength + 1 if Channeling I +2 if Channeling II +4 if Channeling III +2 if Hero) x 2 if Base Move 3 or Greater

This would be applied in the XML, so only starting promotions would be considered.

DaveV · May 5th, 2011, 12:43

Sareln Wrote:How does the following Formula Sound for FfH Units?

iPower = (Total Base Strength + 1 if Channeling I +2 if Channeling II +4 if Channeling III +2 if Hero) x 2 if Base Move 3 or Greater

There's a lot more to it than that, I think. Consider the priest units: the Vicar might as well be an expensive axeman, unless you're planning to research Theology (or unless Gibbon or the Svarts are spamming illusions). On a water heavy map, a Cultist is worth his weight in gold; on an all-land map, he's the same as (or worse than) a Vicar. The other four priests all have their uses, although I'd rank them as Ritualist >> Priest of Leaves > Confessor > Stonewarden.

Base strength of adepts/mages is pretty much irrelevant, but their number of spells can make a big difference. I think the power for all units should scale up by something like (unit level+5) / 6.

Caustic Soda · May 5th, 2011, 12:56

I think the formula you've proposed could be a start, but as DaveV wrote it still isn't all that accurate. The priests definitely ought to have distinct power ratings, and Pyre Zombies are way more powerful than their base strength would suggest. Of course, stuff like mana available and whether a leader has cha/spi/arc/sum also affects the actual power of priests/mages. Would it even be possible to cross-reference traits when determining the power of a particular unit, or is unit power the same across civs/leaders?

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