September 14th, 2011, 14:44
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Ichabod Wrote:And that was my thoughts at the moment. But after that, he started posting some pretty weird stuff. He made a 180 degrees change on his stance on Zakalwe, because saying that Zakalwe was innocent at the beggining of the game was a tactical move, and he started agreeing a lot with Serdoa about Zakalwe. I can see that Serdoa has arguments against Sareln, but Catwalk jumped at the boat near the beggining, when Serdoa hadn't showed his whole case. It was like Zakalwe made a significant wolf slip, but that didn't happen. You may think it didn't happen, I thought it did and I argued for it. Do you think I lied with my explanation of my play concerning zakalwe? If you do, please explain why. If not, I didn't completely switch on zakalwe. He was in my neutral camp and he moved to the suspicious camp.
Quote:And he insisted with the argument of a "wolf wouldn't do it" and that "his play was weird, but at least consistent". I said both arguments during this game (the first on day 1, the second on my post above) and I feel that Catwalk started using them only after I, and other players, pointed that out.
Notice the smiley. It was a light-hearted response to comments people made about me, acknowledging that everybody seems to agree that my playing style is really bad villager play.
Quote:It's very similar to what I said about him and I don't remember any such comments before I made my statement about him. I understand that he can have an unusual behaviour, but it's getting too much and too defensive.
I'm turning more defensive because my village credibility is at an all-time low. Noone puts much faith in my accusations (yet I do keep trying). So the second best thing I can do is to stay alive. This matches my post earlier where I said that I was drowning in information and having a hard time sorting things out. That's how I felt at the time, and I've played accordingly.
September 14th, 2011, 14:55
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Meiz: at this point it doesn't look like scooter is getting much traction today . Who would be your next choice?
September 14th, 2011, 14:56
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On phone. Catwalk thing Doesn't really have much support from the village which is fine, so I'm swapping to twinkletoes.
September 14th, 2011, 15:00
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Injera Wrote:Meiz: at this point it doesn't look like scooter is getting much traction today . Who would be your next choice?
Yeah, noticed  Twinkletoes
And off to sleep.
September 14th, 2011, 15:03
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Catwalk Wrote:You may think it didn't happen, I thought it did and I argued for it. Do you think I lied with my explanation of my play concerning zakalwe? If you do, please explain why. If not, I didn't completely switch on zakalwe. He was in my neutral camp and he moved to the suspicious camp.
Notice the smiley. It was a light-hearted response to comments people made about me, acknowledging that everybody seems to agree that my playing style is really bad villager play.
I'm turning more defensive because my village credibility is at an all-time low. Noone puts much faith in my accusations (yet I do keep trying). So the second best thing I can do is to stay alive. This matches my post earlier where I said that I was drowning in information and having a hard time sorting things out. That's how I felt at the time, and I've played accordingly.
I felt it was to sudden of a change, personally. You trusted zakalwe so much at day 1 that you voted Serdoa for mayor based on his and Meiz's votes and you even suggested to him that you made an alliance of voting. You defended him on a lot of times, including day 2. Then, on day 3, you vote to lynch him.
I agree that you can change your mind and I think that, while strange, your "get close to investigate" stance towards Zakalwe can be a way of playing. But, right now, I don't believe it, I can't see it reflecting on your posts through the game.
There's no way I can prove that your other arguments are lies. On the other hand, while you may be saying the truth, I can't confirm it either. But when I see your play as a whole, I think it's wolfish. That's why I'm voting.
September 14th, 2011, 15:09
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Ichabod Wrote:I agree that you can change your mind and I think that, while strange, your "get close to investigate" stance towards Zakalwe can be a way of playing. But, right now, I don't believe it, I can't see it reflecting on your posts through the game.
There's no way I can prove that your other arguments are lies. On the other hand, while you may be saying the truth, I can't confirm it either. But when I see your play as a whole, I think it's wolfish. That's why I'm voting. I didn't change my mind, though. That's my whole point. I'm seriously wondering if you misunderstood what I'm trying to say.
September 14th, 2011, 15:13
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Lynch:
Twinkletoes (6): Zakalwe, Injera, Sareln, Gaspar, scooter, Meiz
Zakalwe (3.1): Serdoa, Catwalk, Twinkletoes
catwalk (1): Ichabod
Not voting: JKaen, Roland
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September 14th, 2011, 15:15
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Catwalk Wrote:I didn't change my mind, though. That's my whole point. I'm seriously wondering if you misunderstood what I'm trying to say.
But there's no way for me to know if you changed or not, because you told about your "zakalwe tactic" after you started it already. And I chose to believe that you created that tactic to explain why you would for Zakalwe. All I can be certain off is that you spent much of day 1 and 2 saying that you trsuted zakalwe and didn't find him suspicious at all, only to later change your mind on day 3.
But, maybe I'm indeed misunderstanding something (I'm sorry, but I'm in a hurry here and english can be confusing too). Anyway, I have to go now, and I think I have to make my vote matter today, so I'll vote for Twinkletoes89. I think he's more suspicious than Zakalwe.
September 14th, 2011, 15:16
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And please, somebody, anybody, explain me why scooter switches to TT to be followed from Meiz - who's main suspect is scooter...
September 14th, 2011, 15:19
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And 7 votes on TT the next time I look... again more then half the village being on the target zak choose. God, sometimes I understand why seveal (now unfortunately dead) villagers scream at you guys.
Well, lets hope that you are right and I am wrong and that TT is a wolf who got abandonded to provide deep cover for the others. 
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