September 14th, 2011, 15:21
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Serdoa Wrote:And please, somebody, anybody, explain me why scooter switches to TT to be followed from Meiz - who's main suspect is scooter...
Thought this was bizarre too.
September 14th, 2011, 15:23
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Ichabod Wrote:But there's no way for me to know if you changed or not, because you told about your "zakalwe tactic" after you started it already. And I chose to believe that you created that tactic to explain why you would for Zakalwe. All I can be certain off is that you spent much of day 1 and 2 saying that you trsuted zakalwe and didn't find him suspicious at all, only to later change your mind on day 3.
But, maybe I'm indeed misunderstanding something (I'm sorry, but I'm in a hurry here and english can be confusing too). Anyway, I have to go now, and I think I have to make my vote matter today, so I'll vote for Twinkletoes89. I think he's more suspicious than Zakalwe. Alright, at least that clarifies your position. You do believe me to be lying about my play concerning zakalwe. Is this regardless of whether I turn out to be a wolf or not?
I won't be able to stay on for the day change, going to bed now. I'm keeping my vote on zakalwe.
September 14th, 2011, 15:26
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Serdoa Wrote:And if your answer is yes, because you believe - like Meiz - that people can and will change their opinion (all for it, I did it myself) isn't it then a little bit suspicious that zak suspected MNG on the grounds that MNG switched from calling Roland innocent on Day 1 to suspecting him on Day 2?
Yes, I changed my mind about Uberfish, for reasons that I explained both then and also twice on later occasions. He acted towards me precisely as he had done in WW5, and on day 1, so it was a pretty good hunch. I did not follow this up with a bunch of other reasons to build a stronger case because I really had none; but I saw no other strong arguments against anyone, and Uberfish defended very poorly.
The reason MNG gave for voting Roland at the start of day 2 was not very convincing. The way I read it was: I think he is innocent, so he must be guilty. Day 2 seemed a little early for me to hit Lewwyn mode. That vote would of course be fine if it was just a vote to create pressure, but he never really gave an indication that was the case, so I found it suspicious. However, he did redeem himself in my eyes throughout the rest of day 2 by posting many excellent contributions, and I later noted that he had regained some of my trust.
If you know what I mean.
September 14th, 2011, 15:39
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About my theory on Erebus; I thought that was a pretty good one. I could definitely see a wolf trying to be clever and trying to point the discussion in that direction. Why didn't I look into it myself? I did, although I could have told you from memory as well. One of his most recent post showed him clearly stating that we should go after Sareln next. (I distinctly remembered this, I just looked up exactly which post it was, to confirm.)
So to me, it seemed like the natural thing to consider right away, if you wanted to look into why Lewwyn was killed. I figured Erebus would have been likely to discover the same connection, so the fact that he instead posed it as an open question was suspicious to me. Here are his exact words:
Erebus Wrote:Now the question I have is did Lewwyn do anything in particular to get himself targeted, or was it his otherwise lack of suspicious by the rest of the village?
Judge for yourself, but I found this suspicious, and it seemed like a theory worth pursuing. His bizarre fake edit post didn't exactly help his case.
If you know what I mean.
September 14th, 2011, 15:43
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zakalwe Wrote:Catwalk: Yesterday you wanted us to look into the theory that the lynching of Uberfish was a move to save TT. Do you no longer suspect TT now?
I don't think you've answered this yet, Catwalk?
If you know what I mean.
September 14th, 2011, 15:44
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While I still suspect TT, I don't like how this end of day is going.
scooter
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
September 14th, 2011, 15:50
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I think we've been down this road too many times.
zakalwe
September 14th, 2011, 15:50
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zakalwe Wrote:For those who think Scooter is innocent; if he is, then my actions at the end of day 2 aren't very incriminating. If I were a wolf, don't you think I would allow myself to be persuaded to vote for Scooter, if he is innocent? That would still leave Erebus as a severely untrusted villager, for a possible second mislynch today (or later).
What do you think about this argument, Scooter? You haven't mentioned it, even though you restated some suspicion towards me after I made it.
If you know what I mean.
September 14th, 2011, 15:51
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Oh, didn't see your post Gaspar (you can tell how long I was contemplating pressing "submit"  ).
Do you think it would even be possible to get enough votes on scooter to matter, especially with Meiz having gone to bed?
September 14th, 2011, 15:56
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Lynch:
Twinkletoes (6): Zakalwe, Injera, Sareln, Scooter, Meiz, Ichabod
Zakalwe (4.1): Serdoa, Catwalk, Twinkletoes, Injera
Scooter (1): Gaspar
Not voting: JKaen, Roland
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