Werewolf 7 game thread

[Gaspar]

Injera, I like your line of thinking as that is really what the village has to do, all vote for the same person (well, except for that person probably). That might not get you a wolf-kill, but everything else will give the wolves the clear upper hand.

That said, you are right that I am dead tomorrow. I can only ask the village to put their trust in you, because I believe - also but not alone due to your last post - that you are indeed a villager. If not, then... well, honestly, then the wolves have so well played (and we so bad) that they deserve that win.

As for that Gaspar, scooter stuff. Good catch. Don't put yourself in the "it has to be scooter"-shoes though please. I feel confident to say that Gaspar (and when we are honest Ichabod as well) have not really provided much to the village. Gaspar not at all and when I look at Ichabods posts, then it seems to be much text but not as much input. And Gaspars late post yesterday, as if he was in a rush, was played. I am not sure what to think of scooters werewolf post, but Gaspars? Played, played, played. Too much Gaspar.

I don't even know what this means, Serdoa. You really are kind of a jerk, though. Awfully hostile considering you've single-handedly cost us this game with bad decisions. Any more pearls of wisdom so we can figure out what not to do tomorrow?

[Catwalk]

Just had another thought. Let's elect Meiz for mayor tomorrow. The wolves will back another candidate, unless they feel that their chances of victory are below 50%. If another candidate gets half the votes (including the double voter), all who voted against Meiz are wolves. That makes it somewhat risky for the wolves to try to get a wolf elected mayor, as it means exposing their entire team in the process. So the question to the wolf team is: After 4 mislynches, a failed vigilante kill and a villager mod killed, how confident are you of your chances?

Alternately, we could elect the vigilante mayor tomorrow if there's only one claim. Everybody should be able to get behind that, except the wolves.

[Gaspar]

Been trying to stay quiet tonight for reasons that will become apparent during the day period, but I'd say the vig claim thing is dangerous simply because the wolves only need one mislynch - it is extremely easy for one of them to counter-claim and then we have a whole day of who's lying. If there were at least 2 days left, this would be a solid strategy, but with 1 day left, I doubt it. There's also a sizable chance the vig dies tonight.

[Catwalk]

That's exactly what I reasoned Gaspar. Waiting too long with the vig claim makes it next to useless. If anything, he should claim now as Serdoa is going to be eaten tonight. Not eating Serdoa would be crazy (unless he's the wolf).

[Serdoa]

Just had another thought. Let's elect Meiz for mayor tomorrow. The wolves will back another candidate, unless they feel that their chances of victory are below 50%. If another candidate gets half the votes (including the double voter), all who voted against Meiz are wolves. That makes it somewhat risky for the wolves to try to get a wolf elected mayor, as it means exposing their entire team in the process. So the question to the wolf team is: After 4 mislynches, a failed vigilante kill and a villager mod killed, how confident are you of your chances?

I think you guys should go with Injera as mayor, just saying. Oh, and Injera mentioned the idea of all voting for one candidate already.

@Gaspar

It means that I don't believe you one second that you forgot that color-tags are closed with [/color] and not with [/red]. Oh, and that I cost you the game single-handedly is right. But if you are a villager, then you can't know that.

[Meiz]

Serdoa, I seriously hope you will listen others more in the future. I'm off to sleep, but for reference: scooter, TT, Sareln, Roland

Or did I say that already? Anyway, follow the light!

[Catwalk]

Serdoa, how are the tags relevant? Is that somehow some kind of wolf slip?

I'd prefer Meiz over Injera, although I can't back him on his full wolf team just yet. scooter and TT seem pretty safe bets (I notice both are also completely absent from the discussion), other than that I think there are a number of options. Meiz, how confident do you feel about your list?

[Serdoa]

Oh, one thing Gaspar. I don't think that it is very kind to say something like "you are a jerk and cost us the game" even if true (at least the last part, the former is still disccused). Not that I expected anything different tbh but still.

[Gaspar]

I think you guys should go with Injera as mayor, just saying. Oh, and Injera mentioned the idea of all voting for one candidate already.

@Gaspar

It means that I don't believe you one second that you forgot that color-tags are closed with [/color] and not with [/red]. Oh, and that I cost you the game single-handedly is right. But if you are a villager, then you can't know that.

Firstly, I did make that mistake honestly, as I was posting from my phone. I've nearly made that mistake everytime because I have to type the color-codes out on phone rather than selecting as I do at home. This time I didn't preview as normal because I was in a rush. And it surely wouldn't have mattered as our brilliant mayor already was on zak, so what plausible reason did I have to be dishonest there?

And secondly, honestly, I thought I made it pretty clear I knew you cost us the game right after it happened, but didn't want to say anything for fear of outting you to the three people without enough common sense to pick it up.

Go re-read my first post after the vig shot. And here's why I strongly suspected it was you - you were all over Rowain, then suddenly, in your end of night post I'm gonna die post, you mention nothing of him. Sure, Lewwyn could have been the vig shot, but only an idiot group of wolves would eat Rowain on day 1, who had plenty of suspicion on them. So using the noodle I was born with 2 + 2 = Serdoa should probably just stop signing up for werewolf games.

Look, I've tried to be calm all game, but I'm not going to let you pearl harbor me like you did zakalwe and cost us our last minimal shot at the game.

[Injera]

Been trying to stay quiet tonight for reasons that will become apparent during the day period, but I'd say the vig claim thing is dangerous simply because the wolves only need one mislynch - it is extremely easy for one of them to counter-claim and then we have a whole day of who's lying. If there were at least 2 days left, this would be a solid strategy, but with 1 day left, I doubt it. There's also a sizable chance the vig dies tonight.

If the wolves kill the vig tonight then every innocent voter votes with Serdoa. It's that simple; any innocent that doesn't vote with Serdoa guarantees a wolf win. We can only overcome the double vote with the mayor's vote.

If Serdoa is killed tonight then then the 5 remaining villagers must do the following things in order to live: 1) vote unamimously for an innocent mayor, 2) vote in lock-step with said mayor, 3) the mayor votes for a wolf. Once again, there's no alternative; even if you think the mayor is wrong you vote with them or the wolves can win by quickly switching votes at the end.

Since we need unanimity in picking an innocent mayor I think a vig claim will be our best bet, assuming we need to pick a new mayor. Yes, the wolves can (and probably will) counterclaim/preemptively clalim, and we're going to need to sift through that and pray that we can all pick the right one, but what's the alternative?

I'm not sure we could get all 5 innocents to vote for the same mayor very easily. If the mayor vote was, say, Gaspar vs. Roland it would be very difficult to follow through with that. And if we aren't unanimous in picking a major and supporting him the wolves and switch votes in the last minute and win.



The alternative is to vote for someone trusted, but can you name any person here whom every innocent village would agree to vote for mayor? Remember, if one person votes a wolf for mayor the wolves win. I think sorting through a vig struggle is our best bet.