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[SPOILERS] Novice and SevenSpirits play Suleiman of Korea

Players:
NobleHelium and Gaspar: Mao (Exp/Pro) of Babylon (Agriculture, The Wheel, Garden (Colosseum), Bowman (Archer))

Lewwyn: Justinian (Spi/Imp) of Persia (Agriculture, Hunting, Apothecary (Grocer), Immortal (Chariot))

Mackoti: FDR (Ind/Org) of Sumeria (Agriculture, The Wheel, Ziggurat (Courthouse), Vulture (Axeman))

SevenSpirits and Novice: Suleiman (Phi/Imp) of Korea (Mysticism, Mining, Seowon (University), Hwacha (Catapult))

Rules:
No war elephants,
no corporations,
no nukes,
no spies,
no great spy infiltrations,
no blockades,
no barbarians.
I have to run.
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It seems we are roped into a specialist-focused game once again, though this time with different traits.

Here is some critical information for us - bulb lists (copied from here, of course):

Great Prophet:
Meditation
Polytheism
Priesthood
Monotheism
Theology
Divine Right
Mysticism
Masonry
Code of Laws
Civil Service
Monarchy
Literature
Music
Writing
Philosophy
Printing Press
Drama
Aesthetics
Alphabet
Paper
Education
Liberalism
Calendar
Animal Husbandry
Construction
Future Tech
Great Scientist:
Writing
Mathematics
Scientific Method
Physics
Education
Printing Press
Fiber Optics
Computers
Laser
The Wheel
Alphabet
Philosophy
Chemistry
Fission
Fusion
Optics
Paper
Astronomy
Biology
Electricity
Flight
Genetics
Compass
Satellites
Aesthetics
Sailing
Calendar
Medicine
Ecology
Advanced Flight
Iron Working
Metal Casting
Engineering
Steam Power
Liberalism
Agriculture
Masonry
Bronze Working
Machinery
Gunpowder
Refrigeration
Superconductors
Rocketry
Fishing
Combustion
Plastics
Composites
Stealth
Mining
Military Science
Radio
Meditation
Drama
Theology
Music
Civil Service
Democracy
Corporation
Communism
Economics
Hunting
Archery
Animal Husbandry
Construction
Robotics
Monotheism
Mass Media
Horseback Riding
Replaceable Parts
Rifling
Artillery
Future Tech
Great Artist:
Literature
Drama
Music
Polytheism
Monarchy
Mass Media
Radio
Mysticism
Monotheism
Divine Right
Aesthetics
Meditation
Priesthood
Theology
Nationalism
Writing
Philosophy
Printing Press
Liberalism
Pottery
Horseback Riding
Democracy
Education
Military Tradition
Communism
Astronomy
Computers
Feudalism
Constitution
Fishing
Sailing
Paper
Biology
Archery
Masonry
Metal Casting
Civil Service
Guilds
Fascism
Hunting
Animal Husbandry
Bronze Working
Construction
Railroad
Robotics
Future Tech
Great Merchant:
Currency
Banking
Economics
Corporation
Metal Casting
Code of Laws
Mining
Constitution
The Wheel
Alphabet
Pottery
Sailing
Paper
Railroad
Industrialism
Monarchy
Civil Service
Guilds
Fascism
Mass Media
Agriculture
Writing
Mathematics
Printing Press
Flight
Machinery
Replaceable Parts
Satellites
Mysticism
Priesthood
Divine Right
Nationalism
Calendar
Scientific Method
Medicine
Horseback Riding
Compass
Steam Power
Future Tech
Great Engineer:
Machinery
Assembly Line
Industrialism
Combustion
Metal Casting
Mining
Iron Working
Engineering
Replaceable Parts
Steam Power
Steel
Robotics
Railroad
Feudalism
Fascism
The Wheel
Plastics
Masonry
Construction
Guilds
Bronze Working
Corporation
Electricity
Animal Husbandry
Gunpowder
Priesthood
Monarchy
Code of Laws
Constitution
Agriculture
Economics
Chemistry
Fission
Genetics
Fusion
Optics
Civil Service
Nationalism
Communism
Ecology
Pottery
Calendar
Currency
Banking
Scientific Method
Physics
Writing
Medicine
Refrigeration
Superconductors
Computers
Divine Right
Fishing
Mathematics
Flight
Fiber Optics
Hunting
Horseback Riding
Rifling
Future Tech
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This is the strategy we are going to use:

Figure out what is good.

Do that.

Have fun.
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Opponent analysis:

HeliumGasp
A ferocious and squeaky pairing, I expect them to have strong chemistry together. I believe they chose Mao because it looked like he was an Expert Professional, but really that's Expansive/Protective. Protective sucks, so oops by them! Gaspar tends to get despondent and unpredictable when he's behind, so we'll have to pay close attention to these guys. More importantly this is the team that will totally crush us in the thread-spamming subgame - gaspar and his band of lurkers have a tendency to babble on. Speaking of which, their civ is pretty bad except for the Agri/Wheel start. But we should be aware of the possibility of professional bowmen.

Lewwyn
Yuris is dedlurking, and Lewwyn makes great, informative threads for lurkers, so this may actually mean something. Who knows! Lewwyn ACTUALLY made a choice, namely to replace CHA with IMP. I don't blame him! Justinian'S PIMP yo. His civ is Persia, which has a chariot that crushes archers and gets defensive bonuses. That might even force HeliumGasp to react.

Mackoti
Last edited by mackoti; December 9th, 2011 at 01:34. Reason: And of course will be alwayys war with seveno

[SIZE="3"]And of course will be alwayys war with seveno[/SIZE]

OH SNAP! This follows the 23 signup thread in which he ominously claimed to have been waiting to play against novice/spacemanmf a long time. I guess it's too bad that the no diplo format means no trash talk. Or at least, you have to be pretty sneaky to get it in there! Mackoti is Roosevelt (a mediocre leader due to ORG) of Sumeria (the best civ in this game IMO). Will he build the Great Lighthouse again? WHO KNOWS. Mackoti has good, interesting (but not as good as ours) micro and scary midgame skills. He's probably the scariest competition but not as solidly as in 23.

PS take that Novice, you won't beat me in post count this time
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SevenSpirits Wrote:PS take that Novice, you won't beat me in post count this time

Nor in pun count, it seems. SevenSpirits is in pun kibbitzing mode. (Answer: PUNK)

Lurkers: Is it NobleGas or HeliumGasp?
I have to run.
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Noble Gaspar does sound very odd. How about HelGas?


If you don't mind I'll again dedlurk you.
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Gaspium has a nice ring to it.
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Your start:

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Caveats of "might change stuff" still apply. Settler has mobility, sentry, and is on a road (just the one tile). World size small, difficulty Prince.
If only you and me and dead people know hex, then only deaf people know hex.

I write RPG adventures, and blog about it, check it out.
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Ilios Wrote:Gaspium has a nice ring to it.

I think we should come up with a new conflation every time we mention NoGrasp.
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Commodore Wrote:Caveats of "might change stuff" still apply. Settler has mobility, sentry, and is on a road (just the one tile). World size small, difficulty Prince.

Thanks, Commodore.

Warrior NW, scout SW-SW, settler S-Settle, perhaps?

Research Agri->BW->AH?

Build worker->settler(partial)->warrior(partial)->size 2->settler->worker?
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