Luddite/Pindicator

[pindicator]

Yeah, I'm really starting to regret the last day and a half. Can't help but wonder where I went from bantering to prickly. I can definitely see their side of the argument, that they were expecting compensation for peace and by getting none they are upset. I just have little sympathy for it: they attacked us with 1 war chariot and they are going to win regardless. Either way, I really handled this poorly.

[Ceiliazul]

It's probably best that I remove some of the more inflamatory things in the spoiler thread, too. I've think I've used this spoiler thread too much as a personal venting board and it will probably just reopen wounds when they get to read it.

I disagree, the spoiler thread is a record of the true game experience. But maybe you could add an "Edit: after I cooled down a bit..."

[pindicator]

So ... I sent an apology to team nospace for making my attacks personal and received a response in kind from novice: he apologized for calling us cheaters. I'll send it to you, luddite, but I'm not sure it's appropriate to post. I'm trying to tread a little more carefully now, I suppose.

He's also informed me that they requested 100g in game from us.

From a game situation, do we want to accept? In a way, it's a matter of picking our next war. Would we rather fight mackoti or nospace when the enforced peace is up? I'm not going to try to answer that now, i'll give it another day and try to get some emotional distance first.

[pindicator]

We got a save and I forgot about a family get-together in Salem, so I have to get moving. Shoot did ask us for 100g, which would prevent us from researching Guilds this turn. But seeing how you want to upgrade HAs, maybe we don't want to finish Guilds straight away? They also separately asked for our map.

I've thought of a couple responses to shoot:

1) give him the gold. I think this lessens the chance they attack us but maybe doesn't eliminate it entirely. Things have calmed down
2) after we whip we see how low we can turn the slider to still get guilds at the end of the turn, and then counter-offer the rest of our gold
3) give him nothing.
4) antagonize them by offering 1g and a fish.

In all cases I would prefer not giving them our map. Keep as much mystery as possible, especially if there's a good chance they are attacking in 9 turns.

Since things have cooled down, I think there's a less likely chance they attack, but that it is still very possible. So our build-up and troop deployment has to be flexible. We need to be able to respond to shoot if he does attack, or to go after mackoti if he doesn't. Actually, is going after our lost cities still on the table? Or do we just want to do one final ride after the big dogs?

I'm still not sure, but whatever you want to go with I'll be happy to join in on. But I gotta run.

[pindicator]

I saw you hadn't played yet Luddite so I moved things along. If any of the lurkers are wondering, I went with #4

[Ceiliazul]

I saw you hadn't played yet Luddite so I moved things along. If any of the lurkers are wondering, I went with #4

BLOOD!

[luddite]

BLOOD!

probably ours

[Ceiliazul]

probably ours

Lurkers are not picky. :neenernee

[pindicator]

Heh, want to know something funny? SevenSpirit's request made me go back and look at the requests we got last turn, and the world map swap was from Yuri, Lewwyn, and Nicolae. Oops. I think we should propose the world map swap on our next turn, it'll be good to give them the info we have.

[pindicator]

I see we have another turn! I will be able to look at it tonight but feel free to play it earlier if you like. I think things are pretty straightforward unless something unexpected has come up. But since we're locked into peace with virtually every other civ then i think we're okay.