[Spoilers] What, no fireballs?! Team FFH: we're not in Erebus anymore

[Ichabod]

An Axeman will be of very little use if Sunrise shows up with a couple War Chariots.

If Sunrise's power graph starts going up, we tech hunting (will be fast) and we can whip some spears. I really don't think he's going to attack. He knows better. Besides, he seems to have a good capital, so rushing someone won't be a high priority.

[Mardoc]

If Sunrise's power graph starts going up, we tech hunting (will be fast) and we can whip some spears.

Sunrise is how far, exactly? ~6-7 turns of War chariot movement? Is that really enough time to both tech and whip? Especially if he ends up able to double move since you guys can only play at fixed times?

I really don't think he's going to attack. He knows better. Besides, he seems to have a good capital, so rushing someone won't be a high priority.

That said, I think I agree with you here. Just pointing out that it's really not all that much distance between the two of you.

[Ilios]

Do we have Sunrise's graphs already?

[Ichabod]

Do we have Sunrise's graphs already?

Yes. He met other people but didn't put all his EPs on us, so we are outspending him in this department.

He had a "reasonable" power jump last turn (could be pop, tech or a warrior - maybe an axe or WC, though), but before that he was tied with us. I think the power jump is a new city, since he revolted to slavery 2 turns ago or something (and he didn't whip, as far as I can tell). I'm not worried yet.

We can squeeze hunting in 3 turns, if needed.


[SIZE="3"]Turn 38:[/SIZE]

No freaking food...

Pretty disappointing...

Capital is ready to grow, though!

I'll go Pottery -> Masonry, by the way.

[Ilios]

What's going on?

[Ichabod]

What's going on?

Settler is on the move, we revolted to slavery.

My message to sunrise was just something to discourage him. Either way, I think we may need to tech hunting next...

By the way, we have a warrior almost finished in the queue. What happens if I finish hunting and the warrior at the same EoT, while having BW and copper? Do I get a spearman or the production will count to a spearman, but no unit yet (due to lack of hammers)?

[Mardoc]

@Ichabod - You're Mali If I were to attack you it would be after your OMGHAX defender no longer has an edge versus anything I could throw at you, so approximately 47284726592764 turns from now

I know this is the diplo thread, and therefore sunrise doesn't have your best interests at heart - but nevertheless, don't forget that skirmishers are darn good units, especially for their hammers. You can probably afford to throw your weight around a bit in the ancient era.

I'm afraid I don't know the answer for how the warrior/spear question is handled. I suspect it's the latter, just the hammers, no freebies.

[Thoth]

Hut gave us a stupid map of the ocean...

Sounds like you're getting my kind of hut luck from XI....

[Ichabod]

Guess we'll have to delay our second city a bit:

What do we do now? Not that we have any near decent site to settle our second city...

Theres really nothing much to do. We simply can't do anything with such bad land around. There's not a single 4 food land resource in everything we explored (and there's only one water) that doesn't require calendar... And this is not FfH...

Maybe we should just get into the spirit of the game and settle a second city with a lot of trees. Then we chop a lot and try to rush Sunrise...

[Ilios]

Hmmm, if that Lion accross the river attacks first, our Warrior should have a good chance of surviving without damage (that Lion has about 4% chance to win). Even slightly damaged, our Warrior should still have odds against the other Lion.

Re the metagame, would be possible/sensible to make a beeline for Biology?