RBP7 - SPOILERS - Genghis Khan of Egypt

[sunrise089]

No screenshot (though the FFH thread should have one) but it would seem I'm not the only person to think of attacking Rome after signing an NAP. Mali moved away their long visible stack of ~10 mixed swords, axes, spears, and skirmishers last turn and this turn their previously-hidden stack of an axe, skirm, 2x spears, and 12(!) catapults moved towards Roman lands.

Sadly I misplayed my diplo with pindicator. I'm not terribly displeased with him ceding a border spot to me, but the real goal was to get an NAP in exchange for me giving up the spot. I felt though that asking for that out of the blue would tip Rome off too much, and I didn't want them slaving longbows in advance.

[sunrise089]

Moved in on Rome about 5t earlier than I'd have liked. Goal is to take 2 cities before Mali and/or Rome's western neighbors take the rest.

[waterbat]

as far as your post in the diplo thread ( i think i posted there once by mistake already this game):

The Venetian is themed from something in the same general area.
The Bellagio is also northern Italy - themed (maybe same distance as Venice from Rome)
The Palazzo is more genericly italian named.

I think it would have to be one of those 3 - although there might be some roman themed strip joints in vegas.

[darrelljs]

I've found it's no fun for me reading either "I'm going to pretend to buddy up to this noob" or "I'm going to pretend to be angry so I get what I want."

My best civ moment was reading Krill's PBEM2 thread, specifically the part where I had given him my entire army right before he was about to napstab me. The hilarity ! You should read that part of Ichabod's thread after the game, it won't rage you out, but you will get some chuckles out of it .

Darrell

[Kyan]

If anyone else had posted what Ichabod did, your reaction is probably spot on. Ichabod is...different. He won't rub things in, he's too nice.

Next time you're unsure on a mechanic question, just ask buddy. Nice job on the war so far.

[sunrise089]

If anyone else had posted what Ichabod did, your reaction is probably spot on. Ichabod is...different. He won't rub things in, he's too nice.

Next time you're unsure on a mechanic question, just ask buddy.

Yeah, he was super nice with that bloody sunrise pic

Re: mechanics question - Thanks! Believe it or not though I asked regoarrarr and soooo! I thought I was covered...alas

[Kyan]

Yeah, he was super nice with that bloody sunrise pic

That was just playful

[sunrise089]

Nice job on the war so far.

Thanks. One though in case people are wondering about yet more sunrise NAPs which help my neighbors...

My thought process was like this:

*The initial Ichabod NAP made sense since it let me hit Rome, he was mad at me for sniping his city, and he had more power.

*Given that, the pindicator NAP made sense as soon as I saw Ichabod heading for Rome. I was now in a race and didn't have time to cover the China border and make an army to take our Rome.

*I made a small mistake letting the pindicator NAP be for so long. My mistake actually was not calling in my favor with Yuri to learn about the Roman coastline. I though Rome was situation on a bay, not a narrow sea, and so I though I'd need more time to try to contest capturing the cities to the West.

*I let Ichabod both bully and trick me on the Nero capture. The trick has been well discussed. The bullying is just a product of open-land combat. I'm not willing to NAP stab, and we were both in neutral land on roads. That's akin to the RB backstab of Imperio in the Apolyton demogame, where the side who initiates has an auto-win. Basically I was willing to risk my game for the right to capture the city and take the land, but not on the city itself (GLighthouse would have been nice, but it was "only" +10 domestic trade routes, or like 5% research rate.

*Given all that, it's a semi-open question still whether I should allow the NAPs to renew. Obviously I don't have much I can capture except from China and Mali (I can sail and take out Rome, but those cities will be hard to hold and incur huge maintenance). My GNP has actually risen relative to China and Mali over the last 10-15 turns, and my army is still quite a bit smaller than either's. Extending the China NAP definitely gives pind more time to attack England, but he already had a lot of time. I think I have comparable or more cities than Mali and China still, so I think I still benefit more from time to build up.

*All that to say we'll see. I think I have a decent shot to win a rifle-era war with Mali or China if I want one, due to both Agg and/or getting there first.

*All that said Seven or Parkin will still win I was only 6t, IIRC, from Lib when Parkin got it, but he's only going to pull ahead further.

[darrelljs]

I asked regoarrarr and [strike]soooo! I[/strike] thought I was covered...alas

We reap what we sow :neenernee.

Darrell

[Nakor]

Thanks for taking us out in the end, Sunrise! I hope you read in our thread that our land was.... not that good...

Good game!