scooter Wrote:Emperor level barbs with humans is not a serious threat. It's really different when you don't have AIs inflating their technological level. (I still favor Egypt though)True, but it's still nice to be able to crush them with maximum efficiency.
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Shoot the Moon Wrote:Also worth noting, Egypt has the added benefit of dealing with emperor level barbs quite nicely since war chariots are nice and mobile. Just FYI this is an advantage over pretty much every other civ but IMHO not over Mali. I also agree with scooter that we're overestimating the threat of barbs.
I'm leaning towards Egypt. More flexible, plus choking is probably diplomatic suicide since
A. It isn't a duel and you can't take enemy land early due to maintenance. B. ppl already hate you, so being dickish may not be the best idea
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Egypt is my vote.
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nabaxo Wrote:Maybe we should start a new betting pool, betting on which civs/leaders our rivals will pair their picks with. :3It's the Pairing Picks Minigame! Place your votes before the respective teams post their official choices! One point per correct guess.  (It's at the bottom of the sheet.)
It's just that Obelisks doesn't really fit in well with what we are most likely going to do. Oh well, it will be nice to ensure a Prophet if we want to get a Shrine or a specific GP for later GAs.
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SleepingMoogle Wrote:It's just that Obelisks doesn't really fit in well with what we are most likely going to do. Oh well, it will be nice to ensure a Prophet if we want to get a Shrine or a specific GP for later GAs.Yeah, the Obelisk may not be so useful... but can't win them all I guess. Two great starting techs and a great UU is pretty good, all in all. And the UB does at least have the potential to be somewhat useful if needed - it's not necessarily entirely worthless. |
