WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

[Qgqqqqq]

Yes. I asked the GM and he said it was fine 'cause it wasn't from him and didnt confirm or deny my innocence.
If my dream was from a NAP and thestick is one (which I am far from convinced on) then it is likely he sent it as a last minute thing.
RE mindworms, arent they helpful at the end?
That would also serve to balance the large number of village powers.
The drone revolt thing souds weird
If the worms are a credible enemy, maybe they can only kill with the UN charter repeled?

[Meiz]

I thought mind worms kill everyone at the end or something. Found his: " The "Planetmind" is suspicious of humans and will defend itself if necessary. Faction leader quotes scattered throughout the game reveal that all of them, with the notable exception of Lady Deirdre—the first leader to have a conversation with the Planetmind—consider the emerging mind to be highly dangerous. This is due to the fact that the final growth stage is self-destructive, and will take humanity with it. However, the Transcendence victory condition allows the player to unite human consciousness with the Planetmind, helping it avoid self-destruction and propelling humanity to a new plane of existence."

So I'd guess neutral party with different win condition would be the best description. I doubt they care about UN.

[Serdoa]

Yes. I asked the GM and he said it was fine 'cause it wasn't from him and didnt confirm or deny my innocence.
If my dream was from a NAP and thestick is one (which I am far from convinced on) then it is likely he sent it as a last minute thing.
RE mindworms, arent they helpful at the end?
That would also serve to balance the large number of village powers.
The drone revolt thing souds weird
If the worms are a credible enemy, maybe they can only kill with the UN charter repeled?

Ok, next question: What else did the GM tell you? Because clearly what you posted wasn't all that you got.

[Meiz]

After re-reading, I have to add that I do not know if mindworms are a player role. They could also be some game mechanic bigger has in place.

[thestick]

thestick
a) he's pretty obviously a wolf from interactions with and information known about Serdoa yesterday
b) he's appearing to leak information as he struggles

Forgot about the Serdoa-Seer stuff last night, thanks.

You mean that I assumed Serdoa didn't have the ability to determine roles? I assumed that if Serdoa knew novice was also a seer, Serdoa would tell us. Leak information? Like what?

@Meiz, do you know that mindworms can do recruiting, or do you suspect it based on lore and stuff? Also, did you know mindworms existed when you joked with Tasunke about them?

About the 'Datajack,' apparently that's Roze's title, similar to 'King.' Agree, this was probably sent by wolves.

I can't argue with Serdoa's logic if you guys think I'm a wolf.

Anyway, going with Maniac. As I said earlier, I doubt those two posts were written by the same person.

[slowcheetah]

After re-reading, I have to add that I do not know if mindworms are a player role. They could also be some game mechanic bigger has in place.

Or for conspiracy theorists they could be Bigger himself. Check out his tag

[slowcheetah]

Thoughts (I haven't had time for a thorough read through yet).

Pindicators death.

Initially, I was confused by this. Pind had garnered quite a lot of suspicion the previous days and a seer sponsored Novice lynch certainly did nothing to clear him. I know Molach said that he'd be a prime lynch candidate for him today and I'd say the same about myself. So it doesn't really gain the wolves much froma dissension standpoint.

Second (more wacky thoughts), Pindicator was scanned by Novice on night 1, potentially due to his low activity seeming like a seer lying low. The wolves didn't like a power which banned all night actions and couldn't be sure Serdoa wasn't protected. Consequently, byebye Pindicator.

(Sidenote, thus far all the NAP have done is protect humanity from atrocities )

Qgqqqqq's note

Seems like it's either a double bluff or a distraction in an attempt to take heat off of a player. If it's a double bluff then the dubious protection it offers could be for Qgqqqqq or Maniac. If it's an attempt to distract then I think that thestick is the most likely beneficiary, as he was always going to get a lot of heat today, particularly with Pindicator off the table.

[Meiz]

@Meiz, do you know that mindworms can do recruiting, or do you suspect it based on lore and stuff? Also, did you know mindworms existed when you joked with Tasunke about them?

I've got no facts, just speculation from lore. Starting to lean them being a game mechanic, but Sareln still deserves votes.

[waterbat]

well, a lot certainly has happened.

This game really is really messing with my head. I see that we got confirmation of mindworms - and expected strong agreement that a third faction had come into play. Instead - we are still waffling about it?

As for the Qgqqqqq message, I suspect that someone acting for the mindworm faction ( or working toward a mindworm victory condition) put that message out there. It seems like a reasonable way that mindworms might communicate. So... for a different reason, I come to the same conclusion - it doesnt tell us much about the alignment of Qgqqqqqq or Maniac. They could be using one of their own as conduit and/or target (or one of the NAP or one of the village)

I felt like me defense of thestick's lynching day 1 was solid - his activity was such that he was either innocent or dropping enough crumbs to help us. Now - come day 2, he up and disappears ??

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I'd rather not waste the day with an early and obvious bandwagon. I also would like to here more from Sareln first.

[thestick]

Can someone tell my why I'm the 'obvious' lynch? Causing confusion Day 1? Disappearing Day 2? 'General suspiciousness?'

Seems like it's either a double bluff or a distraction in an attempt to take heat off of a player. If it's a double bluff then the dubious protection it offers could be for Qgqqqqq or Maniac. If it's an attempt to distract then I think that thestick is the most likely beneficiary, as he was always going to get a lot of heat today, particularly with Pindicator off the table.

I can't argue with the 'distraction' line of thinking if you assume I'm a wolf. I think I'm being framed, but none of you will believe me.