Okay, I'm a little freaked out and don't know what's going on. thestick is my neighbor. I've been defending him because, having been talking with him, he seems to legitimately be a frustrated villager who's been under a lot of scrutiny. And I still think he his. However, it gets weird.
Like Meiz/Tasunke, thestick knew my name while I didn't know his unnamed title. Like Tasunke, he also spontaneously offered up the fact that he had no power in addition to being a neighbor. He also asked if we were the only neighbors and speculated about about a third faction right at the start of the thread.
I was starting to trust him throughout Day 1, but when Meiz claimed I got paranoid. I imagined the possibilities of some third faction of recruiters or something. When Tasunke's role was revealed to be harmless I felt a lot better about things, though, and I started trusting him again.
Then, last night I developed a new project that was related to mind worms. And now Meiz has said he received one as well. I have no clue what to make of this.
Meiz, do you know anything more?
Our thread (sorry, not formatted nicely):
Like Meiz/Tasunke, thestick knew my name while I didn't know his unnamed title. Like Tasunke, he also spontaneously offered up the fact that he had no power in addition to being a neighbor. He also asked if we were the only neighbors and speculated about about a third faction right at the start of the thread.
I was starting to trust him throughout Day 1, but when Meiz claimed I got paranoid. I imagined the possibilities of some third faction of recruiters or something. When Tasunke's role was revealed to be harmless I felt a lot better about things, though, and I started trusting him again.
Then, last night I developed a new project that was related to mind worms. And now Meiz has said he received one as well. I have no clue what to make of this.
Meiz, do you know anything more?
Our thread (sorry, not formatted nicely):
Injera
08-19-2012
12:33 PM ET (US)
EDIT
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Okay, I'm going to claim. I'm not going to go into any more details on my power since this is going into the public thread.
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thestick
08-19-2012
12:23 PM ET (US)
What exactly does your power do? Even if you don't know (like Brick's 'I can suppress Drone riots'), what is it?
After that, claim away. No one's listening to what I'm saying, and pretty much everyone is suspecting me (except for Meiz), throwing out the 'scum magnet' plan. A bit afraid of revealing an anti-mindworm power and getting hit by whatever powers mindworms have.Edited 08-19-2012 12:23 PM
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Injera
08-19-2012
12:02 PM ET (US)
Do you have anything against me claiming and posting our thread?
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Injera
08-19-2012
11:31 AM ET (US)
No, I didn't know I'd gain a power, Bigger just told me out of the blue last night. My power doesn't specify if it's mind worms being used by someone or if people are mind worms, which is why I think it's the same/similar as Meiz's.
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thestick
08-19-2012
11:25 AM ET (US)
Tell me more about this anti-mindworm power. I wonder if Meiz got a power or just knowing the existence of mindworms?
Yeah, it's freaky. Cha'Dawn and Dierde, apparently both 'planet' leaders, both ending up with a QuickTopic with a semivanillager and gaining mindworm-related stuff Day 3.
Did you know that you'd gain some sort of power Day 3 in your initial Role PM?
And I'm wondering how I fit into all of this.
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Injera
08-19-2012
11:07 AM ET (US)
Okay, here's the deal, I also gained an (anti) mind-worm related power last night. If Meiz also gained one (presumably the same?) then it's really freaky given how much else we had in common earlier.
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thestick
08-19-2012
10:53 AM ET (US)
No.
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Injera
08-19-2012
10:44 AM ET (US)
Um, are you a mind worm?
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thestick
08-19-2012
09:54 AM ET (US)
Now I know how zakalwe felt back in WW13.
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thestick
08-19-2012
09:38 AM ET (US)
...I'm starting to think the wolves are intentionally setting me up for a mislynch. Killing Catwalk who suspected me, pindicator who suspected me, then sending a message so that someone would think that I sent it to distract the village.
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Injera
08-19-2012
12:04 AM ET (US)
Brick's non-knowledge claim makes sense if Mattimeo doesn't know either. Hmm.
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Injera
08-18-2012
10:41 PM ET (US)
Yep, that's the plan. That being said, I'm not opposed to claiming at any time now, so just let me know, or claim yourself if you want to.
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thestick
08-18-2012
10:32 PM ET (US)
Wait to see who looks like they're parking an 'easy' vote? As long as we make sure that I don't start attracting villagers (the Tasunke lynch), sure, why not. Hopefully I'll be able to defend myself...
...in retrospect, outlining the case AGAINST myself might not have been the best idea.
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Injera
08-18-2012
10:21 PM ET (US)
At this point you have enough voices arguing against you, you might make a nice scum magnet today. Maybe we should not do a pre-emptive claim and wait it out another day.
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thestick
08-18-2012
10:18 PM ET (US)
Brick not knowing what a Drone revolt is seems pretty weird, then again, those with atrocities didn't know what the UN Charter was or how to repeal it.
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thestick
08-18-2012
09:31 PM ET (US)
Thanks, nice to know someone doesn't think I'm a wolf.
Pindicator had a game-wide hook? And now atrocities, extra powers, are on the table.
I really can't grasp why people think I'm a wolf. Being suspicious of Tasunke-voters instead of my own? Saying 'Tasunke's role' instead of 'role and alignment'? 'Studied uselessness?'
I hate how Lewwyn's been gunning for me, throwing votes on me with little explanation.
It's weird how the people who suspect me then die, first Catwalk (admittedly, it was a weak suspicion), then pindicator, who was squeezing me dry all night.
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Injera
08-18-2012
01:17 PM ET (US)
I think Lewwyn is a villager because of his claim, which I don't think he would do as a wolf. He likes to play coy.
I'm going to be gone mostly until tonight, but when I get back if there's a wagon on you I think we should probably claim. At this point I'm pretty sure you're a villager.
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Injera
08-18-2012
11:59 AM ET (US)
Hey, sorry about not being around, I had an unexpectedly eventful Friday. I'm getting caught up on the game thread now.
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thestick
08-18-2012
09:14 AM ET (US)
Am I the only one who thinks Lewwyn's acting suspicious?
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thestick
08-18-2012
09:08 AM ET (US)
And now Pindicator is interrogating me.
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thestick
08-17-2012
06:24 PM ET (US)
Serdoa can't determine roles? It actually makes some sense. novice knows alignment, what he's interested in is power roles, so his scan provides night actions. Serdoa just wants alignment, so that's all Bigger gives him.
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thestick
08-17-2012
06:21 PM ET (US)
Nice, Serdoa nailed the NAP-seer. I doubt there's a banner in this game, otherwise the Banner would just protect Serdoa while remaining anonymous. Way too powerful, unless there's a roleblocker or something.
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thestick
08-17-2012
04:23 PM ET (US)
I just can't seem to stop pinging on everyone's scum-radar.
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thestick
08-17-2012
03:29 PM ET (US)
That I can't really wrap my head around it. Especially Molach's posts.
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Injera
08-16-2012
09:29 PM ET (US)
So what are your thoughts on all that Lewwyn/alien business? Reading through it is making my head hurt.
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thestick
08-16-2012
04:49 PM ET (US)
Ugh I was afraid the name claIm would lead to discrimination against no names.
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Injera
08-15-2012
06:46 PM ET (US)
There's an atrocity for you. So UN breaks up > atrocities are on the table. I wonder if the UN is timed or triggered.
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Injera
08-14-2012
10:41 PM ET (US)
Well, sometimes when you think of something interesting it's best to hold back posting it for a bit and see if you can develop the idea further, or make sure it really will stand up to scrutiny. Especially in the early days people are looking to jump on anything anyone says, and they're not going to give a charitable reading.
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thestick
08-14-2012
09:30 PM ET (US)
It seems that posting what comes to mind mixed with logical thinking is horribly backfiring on me.
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Injera
08-14-2012
06:21 PM ET (US)
Nope, no mind worm. I was really worried once Meiz posted their neighbor thread that both of you two were something like that. Glad to be wrong about that.
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bigger
08-14-2012
06:20 PM ET (US)
If you feel stuck here you are free to not post
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thestick
08-14-2012
06:19 PM ET (US)
Well, a semivanillager (Tasunke/thestick) who got stuck in a QuickTopic because someone (Lady Dierie/Prophet Cha'Dawn) built a secret project (Empathy Guild/Telepathic Matrix). Weird.
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thestick
08-14-2012
05:55 PM ET (US)
I'm wondering whether Tasunke really is a mindworm. It looks like he'll get lynched, time to find out.
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thestick
08-14-2012
05:07 PM ET (US)
When will I get through a single Day 1 without getting on the chopping block?
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Injera
08-14-2012
05:01 PM ET (US)
Right now it's 10 votes to your 5, so you're not in bad shape.
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thestick
08-14-2012
04:56 PM ET (US)
Back. Uh, I'm getting lynched? Hang on...
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Injera
08-14-2012
04:53 PM ET (US)
Since you're not around to defend yourself I'm going to claim if it looks like you'll get lynched. Still a safe margin for you, though.
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Injera
08-14-2012
02:33 PM ET (US)
Is there anything more about you I should know?
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Injera
08-14-2012
11:20 AM ET (US)
So apparently we're aren't the only neighbors. I need to think on this.
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Injera
08-14-2012
12:03 AM ET (US)
No problem. I answered it twice hehe. I'm going to go watch some TV, I'm probably out for the night now.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:51 PM ET (US)
What I'm saying is that in the past we interpreted Tasunke's weird behavior as wolf tells when in fact they were just his personality. That's the point I was making to Mattimeo- if someone who normally contributes thoughtful stuff shows up with nothing but fluff, yeah, they're probably scum. But Tasunke has always been a little weird, and so I don't really see the book report, for example, as a wolf tell. Just an oddity.
The very first WW game I played I was completely obsessed thinking that zak as a wolf. He wasn't, and got mislynched mostly by Serdoa and I. In WW12 I accused him of a grand conspiracy with novice. He was indeed a wolf, but the conspiracy we completely and insanely wrong. I'm not really confident in my ability to read him. So, long story short, I don't have much confidence in my ability to read him.
About the workers - I bet if there are more worker(s) they probably have a different powers, so that way no one can guess if one of them gets revealed.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:39 PM ET (US)
Also, sorry about semi-reposting Post 31 into the public thread so you have to read it twice.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:37 PM ET (US)
Another thing I noticed:
Signup thread:
"Some will be faction leaders, some talents (thinker, engineer, empath, etc.) or drones. The latter are not extras but an important part of the game."
Game Thread:
"Some will be faction leaders, some talents (thinker, engineer, empath, etc.), drones, workers, etc. The latter are not extras but an important part of the game."
It looks like I'm a worker for life. One thing, 'drones' and 'Workers' are plural, indicating there might be another Worker with another QuickTopic.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:33 PM ET (US)
zak I'm worried about. He doesn't feel like he's analyzing everything anymore.
Okay, so you're saying that 'we've mislynched him in the past, so we must be sure not to mislynch him again?' I don't like that line of reasoning.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:29 PM ET (US)
Serdoa has said he's busy, and he's been truthful about that in the past so I believe him, but his vote seemed really weak to me, especially following Zak (as Zak's votes have a tendency to be followed, it's a safe place to be.)
I don't know about Tasunke. Haven't we mislynched him before for being weird? I need to take another look.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:19 PM ET (US)
Time for me to join! Really though, he's the most scummy since I realized that my Molach argument wasn't as conclusive as I thought.
I still want to know why Lewwyn thinks Tasunke has a reason to not claim a name. Also, why zakalwe and Serdoa jumped on board with him.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:14 PM ET (US)
Here comes the bandwagon on Tasunke...
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:10 PM ET (US)
I think you might be right for the whole 'cracking Sareln out of his shell' thing. I can't believe the book review didn't tip me off.
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Injera
08-13-2012
09:44 PM ET (US)
It sounds like you just misinterpreted it. Everyone does that once in a while, and besides, it's always a good idea to take "veteran" advice like that with a grain of salt.
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thestick
08-13-2012
09:27 PM ET (US)
Um, I may have landed myself in hot water for not realizing that Molach doesn't hate hunting lurkers, just advises against it.
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Injera
08-13-2012
09:10 PM ET (US)
Hmm, Molach is hard to read. To me, it doesn't seem like he's trying all that hard to get you lynched. When he reaffirmed his vote on you he qualified it, and tried to make it sort of a "personal feeling"- that is, he's not trying to convince anyone else to join him, or working up a bigger case against you. If anything, he's scummy for vote-parking.
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thestick
08-13-2012
07:15 PM ET (US)
I think Molach's a wolf, he seems too eager to kill me. If he lynches, waterbat's the next highest target, as Molach seemed to go out of his way to not vote for waterbat.
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Injera
08-13-2012
06:01 PM ET (US)
Oh, it's fine. I literally just responded.
I'm glad you asked Lewwyn about the names, as there really seems to be something going on there. Not only his Tasunke reaction, but he was the first to suggest mass claiming names, too. If he had some sort of name-seer power he would be much more subtle. Bob seems like he's either just wildly speculating, or might know something about names as well.
This a weird day with all the unvotes and no votes sticking to anyone at all. That happened last game, too, when the wolves were all "a great bunch of lurky-loos" as Molach called us. I'm not sure how relevant that is, the fact that we have so many new players this time around might be more the cause.
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thestick
08-13-2012
04:20 PM ET (US)
A bit sorry for calling you out on nothing but roleplay. Had to add you to the list or people will think we're wolf buddies.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:46 AM ET (US)
Morning! Getting caught up on the thread. I don't think the names will matter too much in terms of helping out the wolves pick targets (look at us, worker and faction leader.) I think the real danger is that someone reads too much into one, makes a bad accusation, and then it becomes a safe haven for wolves.
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thestick
08-13-2012
10:26 AM ET (US)
If you have a night power and I don't, I'll definitely feel like I got the short end of the wooden pole. Jealousy?
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thestick
08-13-2012
10:23 AM ET (US)
Uh oh, the nameclaim might be a problem. People with names are perceived as more powerful than people without names, making them higher wolf-kill priorities, all else equal. Unless Bigger even thought through those metagame thoughts.
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Injera
08-12-2012
11:33 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the heads up, I mentioned there I was Cha'Dawn. I'll have to look up what atrocities are in SMAC hehe. I wouldn't sell short this role, though. Having an extra set of eyeballs on problems, or an extra voice to push someone, can be very powerful.
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thestick
08-12-2012
10:52 PM ET (US)
I'm worried about atrocities, personally.
I'm REALLY hoping that I'll get a night action at some point. To quote:
"There are no vanilla villagers, although some will lack power roles on day 1."
If being in a QuickTopic counts as a 'role,' oh well. If it doesn't, I hope that I'll gain one. Thing is, nothing is mentioned about gaining additional abilities in my PM. Either it's secret or I don't get any. Maybe I'm just being greedy.
One thing I noticed, you never actually said that you were Prophet Cha'Dawn. Could confuse people.
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Injera
08-12-2012
06:40 PM ET (US)
I think we can safely assume the NAP members are randomly selected from all the characters Bigger is using. Tying the alignments to anything flavor-specific would be a big no-no: figure out the pattern, mass claim, win.
What I'm really wondering about is that non-denial and the promised "secret plots"... there are a lot of interesting possibilities there.
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thestick
08-12-2012
06:09 PM ET (US)
Ahh, got to love the D1 random banter.
SK/Arsonist seems possible, all threats to humanity. So the NAP of Evil isn't human?
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Injera
08-12-2012
05:56 PM ET (US)
You're right, I just reread the the pre-game thread. That was a very non-denial denial he gave.
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thestick
08-12-2012
05:47 PM ET (US)
No problem.
The whole 'one neighbors' thing was just based off of the title of this thread, that and (as far as I know) there's usually only one set of Masons. Maybe Bigger just has multiple threads titled 'Neighbors' or it's something different.
I asked Bigger, there aren't any listeners besides the GMs (Bigger and Mardoc).
I'm pretty sure Bigger didn't explicitly state how many wolfpacks there were. It was heavily implied to be only one in the setup. It's one, I guess.
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Injera
08-12-2012
04:54 PM ET (US)
It's more that I'm just not going to say anything about my power or lack thereof until I feel like I can trust you a bit more. Nothing personal.
All the thread shenanigans were really fun last game so my gut instinct is that Bigger probably put something else "neighborly" in some form or another. Probably not the exact same as us, though. Maybe like a lap-top that gets passed around, or something one-way, etc. Or maybe we have a listener like pindicator last game.
Bigger said only one pack somewhere in the sign-up thread I think. With how much we've talked about arsonists/serial killers in prior games I wouldn't be surprised if we finally see one show up in this game. One's gotta show up eventually.
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thestick
08-12-2012
04:15 PM ET (US)
So, you're a silverblood?
It looks like there's only one wolfpack in this game. I wonder if we're the only Neighbors. Also wondering what kind of strange twists this game will include.
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Injera
08-12-2012
03:58 PM ET (US)
Yeah, Bigger said there are no vanilla villagers, which made me think back to WW12. We caught a couple of wolves right off the bat in that game and then it just became a matter of getting everyone to role claim and mop-up work. It was a let-down after awesome start, especially once I realized our early great catches had a lot to do with wolves wanting to catch wolves, too.
I may or may not have another power, but if I do it's that if a wolf tries to eat me then the wolves lose the game.
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thestick
08-12-2012
03:01 PM ET (US)
Ehh, this isn't quite an 'everyone has a power' game. I don't. I'm a Worker, have no night role, and whose only interesting quality is being in a quicktopic with Cha'Dawn. Do you have a night role? I'm not going to be doing any roleplaying, at least I don't plan to.
I'm honestly looking forward to seeing if I can actually catch a wolf.
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Injera
08-12-2012
01:07 PM ET (US)
Yep, I'm CST, though I can keep an odd schedule at times. Pregame thoughts, I don't know. I'm curious about if folks will role play at all. I know I looked up my character, but I've never played SMAC so it there's not a whole lot to work with except for some "Space God" stuff. I'll try to work a little in. I think it should be a good game, though the "everyone has a power" games are tricky to balance. I trust Bigger has thought that through, though. Mostly I'm just relieved to not be a wolf again and being able to sit back and enjoy things for a change.
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thestick
08-12-2012
10:05 AM ET (US)
For future reference, you're on Central time, right? I'm on Eastern.
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thestick
08-12-2012
10:04 AM ET (US)
I still get a kick out of people calling me 'thewolf.' Yes, I'm thestick.
Oops, I forgot to ask Bigger whether I was allowed to post here.
Any pregame thoughts? I don't have any, except for 'this is going to be good!'
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Injera
08-11-2012
11:24 PM ET (US)
Hey there! I asked Bigger if it was okay to talk in this thread before the game starts and he says it's okay.
The one thing I liked about being a wolf the last two games was having a private thread, so this is nice. So.. are you thestick or thewolf?
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thestick
08-11-2012
09:51 PM ET (US)
So... we're the only Neighbors in the game?
Hi Injera!
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bigger
08-11-2012
07:40 PM ET (US)
This quicktropic is for private conversations between neighbors Injera and thestick. FYI, both me and Mardoc can also read this thread.Edited 08-11-2012 07:56 PM
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bigger
08-08-2012
01:09 AM ET (US)
Good luck!
08-19-2012
12:33 PM ET (US)
EDIT
DELETE
Okay, I'm going to claim. I'm not going to go into any more details on my power since this is going into the public thread.
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thestick
08-19-2012
12:23 PM ET (US)
What exactly does your power do? Even if you don't know (like Brick's 'I can suppress Drone riots'), what is it?
After that, claim away. No one's listening to what I'm saying, and pretty much everyone is suspecting me (except for Meiz), throwing out the 'scum magnet' plan. A bit afraid of revealing an anti-mindworm power and getting hit by whatever powers mindworms have.Edited 08-19-2012 12:23 PM
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Injera
08-19-2012
12:02 PM ET (US)
Do you have anything against me claiming and posting our thread?
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Injera
08-19-2012
11:31 AM ET (US)
No, I didn't know I'd gain a power, Bigger just told me out of the blue last night. My power doesn't specify if it's mind worms being used by someone or if people are mind worms, which is why I think it's the same/similar as Meiz's.
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thestick
08-19-2012
11:25 AM ET (US)
Tell me more about this anti-mindworm power. I wonder if Meiz got a power or just knowing the existence of mindworms?
Yeah, it's freaky. Cha'Dawn and Dierde, apparently both 'planet' leaders, both ending up with a QuickTopic with a semivanillager and gaining mindworm-related stuff Day 3.
Did you know that you'd gain some sort of power Day 3 in your initial Role PM?
And I'm wondering how I fit into all of this.
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Injera
08-19-2012
11:07 AM ET (US)
Okay, here's the deal, I also gained an (anti) mind-worm related power last night. If Meiz also gained one (presumably the same?) then it's really freaky given how much else we had in common earlier.
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thestick
08-19-2012
10:53 AM ET (US)
No.
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Injera
08-19-2012
10:44 AM ET (US)
Um, are you a mind worm?
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thestick
08-19-2012
09:54 AM ET (US)
Now I know how zakalwe felt back in WW13.
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thestick
08-19-2012
09:38 AM ET (US)
...I'm starting to think the wolves are intentionally setting me up for a mislynch. Killing Catwalk who suspected me, pindicator who suspected me, then sending a message so that someone would think that I sent it to distract the village.
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Injera
08-19-2012
12:04 AM ET (US)
Brick's non-knowledge claim makes sense if Mattimeo doesn't know either. Hmm.
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Injera
08-18-2012
10:41 PM ET (US)
Yep, that's the plan. That being said, I'm not opposed to claiming at any time now, so just let me know, or claim yourself if you want to.
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thestick
08-18-2012
10:32 PM ET (US)
Wait to see who looks like they're parking an 'easy' vote? As long as we make sure that I don't start attracting villagers (the Tasunke lynch), sure, why not. Hopefully I'll be able to defend myself...
...in retrospect, outlining the case AGAINST myself might not have been the best idea.
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Injera
08-18-2012
10:21 PM ET (US)
At this point you have enough voices arguing against you, you might make a nice scum magnet today. Maybe we should not do a pre-emptive claim and wait it out another day.
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thestick
08-18-2012
10:18 PM ET (US)
Brick not knowing what a Drone revolt is seems pretty weird, then again, those with atrocities didn't know what the UN Charter was or how to repeal it.
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thestick
08-18-2012
09:31 PM ET (US)
Thanks, nice to know someone doesn't think I'm a wolf.
Pindicator had a game-wide hook? And now atrocities, extra powers, are on the table.
I really can't grasp why people think I'm a wolf. Being suspicious of Tasunke-voters instead of my own? Saying 'Tasunke's role' instead of 'role and alignment'? 'Studied uselessness?'
I hate how Lewwyn's been gunning for me, throwing votes on me with little explanation.
It's weird how the people who suspect me then die, first Catwalk (admittedly, it was a weak suspicion), then pindicator, who was squeezing me dry all night.
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Injera
08-18-2012
01:17 PM ET (US)
I think Lewwyn is a villager because of his claim, which I don't think he would do as a wolf. He likes to play coy.
I'm going to be gone mostly until tonight, but when I get back if there's a wagon on you I think we should probably claim. At this point I'm pretty sure you're a villager.
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Injera
08-18-2012
11:59 AM ET (US)
Hey, sorry about not being around, I had an unexpectedly eventful Friday. I'm getting caught up on the game thread now.
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thestick
08-18-2012
09:14 AM ET (US)
Am I the only one who thinks Lewwyn's acting suspicious?
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thestick
08-18-2012
09:08 AM ET (US)
And now Pindicator is interrogating me.
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thestick
08-17-2012
06:24 PM ET (US)
Serdoa can't determine roles? It actually makes some sense. novice knows alignment, what he's interested in is power roles, so his scan provides night actions. Serdoa just wants alignment, so that's all Bigger gives him.
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thestick
08-17-2012
06:21 PM ET (US)
Nice, Serdoa nailed the NAP-seer. I doubt there's a banner in this game, otherwise the Banner would just protect Serdoa while remaining anonymous. Way too powerful, unless there's a roleblocker or something.
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thestick
08-17-2012
04:23 PM ET (US)
I just can't seem to stop pinging on everyone's scum-radar.
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thestick
08-17-2012
03:29 PM ET (US)
That I can't really wrap my head around it. Especially Molach's posts.
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Injera
08-16-2012
09:29 PM ET (US)
So what are your thoughts on all that Lewwyn/alien business? Reading through it is making my head hurt.
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thestick
08-16-2012
04:49 PM ET (US)
Ugh I was afraid the name claIm would lead to discrimination against no names.
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Injera
08-15-2012
06:46 PM ET (US)
There's an atrocity for you. So UN breaks up > atrocities are on the table. I wonder if the UN is timed or triggered.
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Injera
08-14-2012
10:41 PM ET (US)
Well, sometimes when you think of something interesting it's best to hold back posting it for a bit and see if you can develop the idea further, or make sure it really will stand up to scrutiny. Especially in the early days people are looking to jump on anything anyone says, and they're not going to give a charitable reading.
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thestick
08-14-2012
09:30 PM ET (US)
It seems that posting what comes to mind mixed with logical thinking is horribly backfiring on me.
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Injera
08-14-2012
06:21 PM ET (US)
Nope, no mind worm. I was really worried once Meiz posted their neighbor thread that both of you two were something like that. Glad to be wrong about that.
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bigger
08-14-2012
06:20 PM ET (US)
If you feel stuck here you are free to not post
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thestick
08-14-2012
06:19 PM ET (US)
Well, a semivanillager (Tasunke/thestick) who got stuck in a QuickTopic because someone (Lady Dierie/Prophet Cha'Dawn) built a secret project (Empathy Guild/Telepathic Matrix). Weird.
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thestick
08-14-2012
05:55 PM ET (US)
I'm wondering whether Tasunke really is a mindworm. It looks like he'll get lynched, time to find out.
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thestick
08-14-2012
05:07 PM ET (US)
When will I get through a single Day 1 without getting on the chopping block?
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Injera
08-14-2012
05:01 PM ET (US)
Right now it's 10 votes to your 5, so you're not in bad shape.
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thestick
08-14-2012
04:56 PM ET (US)
Back. Uh, I'm getting lynched? Hang on...
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Injera
08-14-2012
04:53 PM ET (US)
Since you're not around to defend yourself I'm going to claim if it looks like you'll get lynched. Still a safe margin for you, though.
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Injera
08-14-2012
02:33 PM ET (US)
Is there anything more about you I should know?
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Injera
08-14-2012
11:20 AM ET (US)
So apparently we're aren't the only neighbors. I need to think on this.
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Injera
08-14-2012
12:03 AM ET (US)
No problem. I answered it twice hehe. I'm going to go watch some TV, I'm probably out for the night now.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:51 PM ET (US)
What I'm saying is that in the past we interpreted Tasunke's weird behavior as wolf tells when in fact they were just his personality. That's the point I was making to Mattimeo- if someone who normally contributes thoughtful stuff shows up with nothing but fluff, yeah, they're probably scum. But Tasunke has always been a little weird, and so I don't really see the book report, for example, as a wolf tell. Just an oddity.
The very first WW game I played I was completely obsessed thinking that zak as a wolf. He wasn't, and got mislynched mostly by Serdoa and I. In WW12 I accused him of a grand conspiracy with novice. He was indeed a wolf, but the conspiracy we completely and insanely wrong. I'm not really confident in my ability to read him. So, long story short, I don't have much confidence in my ability to read him.
About the workers - I bet if there are more worker(s) they probably have a different powers, so that way no one can guess if one of them gets revealed.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:39 PM ET (US)
Also, sorry about semi-reposting Post 31 into the public thread so you have to read it twice.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:37 PM ET (US)
Another thing I noticed:
Signup thread:
"Some will be faction leaders, some talents (thinker, engineer, empath, etc.) or drones. The latter are not extras but an important part of the game."
Game Thread:
"Some will be faction leaders, some talents (thinker, engineer, empath, etc.), drones, workers, etc. The latter are not extras but an important part of the game."
It looks like I'm a worker for life. One thing, 'drones' and 'Workers' are plural, indicating there might be another Worker with another QuickTopic.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:33 PM ET (US)
zak I'm worried about. He doesn't feel like he's analyzing everything anymore.
Okay, so you're saying that 'we've mislynched him in the past, so we must be sure not to mislynch him again?' I don't like that line of reasoning.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:29 PM ET (US)
Serdoa has said he's busy, and he's been truthful about that in the past so I believe him, but his vote seemed really weak to me, especially following Zak (as Zak's votes have a tendency to be followed, it's a safe place to be.)
I don't know about Tasunke. Haven't we mislynched him before for being weird? I need to take another look.
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:19 PM ET (US)
Time for me to join! Really though, he's the most scummy since I realized that my Molach argument wasn't as conclusive as I thought.
I still want to know why Lewwyn thinks Tasunke has a reason to not claim a name. Also, why zakalwe and Serdoa jumped on board with him.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:14 PM ET (US)
Here comes the bandwagon on Tasunke...
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thestick
08-13-2012
11:10 PM ET (US)
I think you might be right for the whole 'cracking Sareln out of his shell' thing. I can't believe the book review didn't tip me off.
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Injera
08-13-2012
09:44 PM ET (US)
It sounds like you just misinterpreted it. Everyone does that once in a while, and besides, it's always a good idea to take "veteran" advice like that with a grain of salt.
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thestick
08-13-2012
09:27 PM ET (US)
Um, I may have landed myself in hot water for not realizing that Molach doesn't hate hunting lurkers, just advises against it.
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Injera
08-13-2012
09:10 PM ET (US)
Hmm, Molach is hard to read. To me, it doesn't seem like he's trying all that hard to get you lynched. When he reaffirmed his vote on you he qualified it, and tried to make it sort of a "personal feeling"- that is, he's not trying to convince anyone else to join him, or working up a bigger case against you. If anything, he's scummy for vote-parking.
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thestick
08-13-2012
07:15 PM ET (US)
I think Molach's a wolf, he seems too eager to kill me. If he lynches, waterbat's the next highest target, as Molach seemed to go out of his way to not vote for waterbat.
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Injera
08-13-2012
06:01 PM ET (US)
Oh, it's fine. I literally just responded.
I'm glad you asked Lewwyn about the names, as there really seems to be something going on there. Not only his Tasunke reaction, but he was the first to suggest mass claiming names, too. If he had some sort of name-seer power he would be much more subtle. Bob seems like he's either just wildly speculating, or might know something about names as well.
This a weird day with all the unvotes and no votes sticking to anyone at all. That happened last game, too, when the wolves were all "a great bunch of lurky-loos" as Molach called us. I'm not sure how relevant that is, the fact that we have so many new players this time around might be more the cause.
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thestick
08-13-2012
04:20 PM ET (US)
A bit sorry for calling you out on nothing but roleplay. Had to add you to the list or people will think we're wolf buddies.
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Injera
08-13-2012
11:46 AM ET (US)
Morning! Getting caught up on the thread. I don't think the names will matter too much in terms of helping out the wolves pick targets (look at us, worker and faction leader.) I think the real danger is that someone reads too much into one, makes a bad accusation, and then it becomes a safe haven for wolves.
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thestick
08-13-2012
10:26 AM ET (US)
If you have a night power and I don't, I'll definitely feel like I got the short end of the wooden pole. Jealousy?
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thestick
08-13-2012
10:23 AM ET (US)
Uh oh, the nameclaim might be a problem. People with names are perceived as more powerful than people without names, making them higher wolf-kill priorities, all else equal. Unless Bigger even thought through those metagame thoughts.
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Injera
08-12-2012
11:33 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the heads up, I mentioned there I was Cha'Dawn. I'll have to look up what atrocities are in SMAC hehe. I wouldn't sell short this role, though. Having an extra set of eyeballs on problems, or an extra voice to push someone, can be very powerful.
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thestick
08-12-2012
10:52 PM ET (US)
I'm worried about atrocities, personally.
I'm REALLY hoping that I'll get a night action at some point. To quote:
"There are no vanilla villagers, although some will lack power roles on day 1."
If being in a QuickTopic counts as a 'role,' oh well. If it doesn't, I hope that I'll gain one. Thing is, nothing is mentioned about gaining additional abilities in my PM. Either it's secret or I don't get any. Maybe I'm just being greedy.
One thing I noticed, you never actually said that you were Prophet Cha'Dawn. Could confuse people.
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Injera
08-12-2012
06:40 PM ET (US)
I think we can safely assume the NAP members are randomly selected from all the characters Bigger is using. Tying the alignments to anything flavor-specific would be a big no-no: figure out the pattern, mass claim, win.
What I'm really wondering about is that non-denial and the promised "secret plots"... there are a lot of interesting possibilities there.
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thestick
08-12-2012
06:09 PM ET (US)
Ahh, got to love the D1 random banter.
SK/Arsonist seems possible, all threats to humanity. So the NAP of Evil isn't human?
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Injera
08-12-2012
05:56 PM ET (US)
You're right, I just reread the the pre-game thread. That was a very non-denial denial he gave.
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thestick
08-12-2012
05:47 PM ET (US)
No problem.
The whole 'one neighbors' thing was just based off of the title of this thread, that and (as far as I know) there's usually only one set of Masons. Maybe Bigger just has multiple threads titled 'Neighbors' or it's something different.
I asked Bigger, there aren't any listeners besides the GMs (Bigger and Mardoc).
I'm pretty sure Bigger didn't explicitly state how many wolfpacks there were. It was heavily implied to be only one in the setup. It's one, I guess.
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Injera
08-12-2012
04:54 PM ET (US)
It's more that I'm just not going to say anything about my power or lack thereof until I feel like I can trust you a bit more. Nothing personal.
All the thread shenanigans were really fun last game so my gut instinct is that Bigger probably put something else "neighborly" in some form or another. Probably not the exact same as us, though. Maybe like a lap-top that gets passed around, or something one-way, etc. Or maybe we have a listener like pindicator last game.
Bigger said only one pack somewhere in the sign-up thread I think. With how much we've talked about arsonists/serial killers in prior games I wouldn't be surprised if we finally see one show up in this game. One's gotta show up eventually.
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thestick
08-12-2012
04:15 PM ET (US)
So, you're a silverblood?
It looks like there's only one wolfpack in this game. I wonder if we're the only Neighbors. Also wondering what kind of strange twists this game will include.
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Injera
08-12-2012
03:58 PM ET (US)
Yeah, Bigger said there are no vanilla villagers, which made me think back to WW12. We caught a couple of wolves right off the bat in that game and then it just became a matter of getting everyone to role claim and mop-up work. It was a let-down after awesome start, especially once I realized our early great catches had a lot to do with wolves wanting to catch wolves, too.
I may or may not have another power, but if I do it's that if a wolf tries to eat me then the wolves lose the game.
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thestick
08-12-2012
03:01 PM ET (US)
Ehh, this isn't quite an 'everyone has a power' game. I don't. I'm a Worker, have no night role, and whose only interesting quality is being in a quicktopic with Cha'Dawn. Do you have a night role? I'm not going to be doing any roleplaying, at least I don't plan to.
I'm honestly looking forward to seeing if I can actually catch a wolf.
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Injera
08-12-2012
01:07 PM ET (US)
Yep, I'm CST, though I can keep an odd schedule at times. Pregame thoughts, I don't know. I'm curious about if folks will role play at all. I know I looked up my character, but I've never played SMAC so it there's not a whole lot to work with except for some "Space God" stuff. I'll try to work a little in. I think it should be a good game, though the "everyone has a power" games are tricky to balance. I trust Bigger has thought that through, though. Mostly I'm just relieved to not be a wolf again and being able to sit back and enjoy things for a change.
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thestick
08-12-2012
10:05 AM ET (US)
For future reference, you're on Central time, right? I'm on Eastern.
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thestick
08-12-2012
10:04 AM ET (US)
I still get a kick out of people calling me 'thewolf.' Yes, I'm thestick.
Oops, I forgot to ask Bigger whether I was allowed to post here.
Any pregame thoughts? I don't have any, except for 'this is going to be good!'
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Injera
08-11-2012
11:24 PM ET (US)
Hey there! I asked Bigger if it was okay to talk in this thread before the game starts and he says it's okay.
The one thing I liked about being a wolf the last two games was having a private thread, so this is nice. So.. are you thestick or thewolf?
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thestick
08-11-2012
09:51 PM ET (US)
So... we're the only Neighbors in the game?
Hi Injera!
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bigger
08-11-2012
07:40 PM ET (US)
This quicktropic is for private conversations between neighbors Injera and thestick. FYI, both me and Mardoc can also read this thread.Edited 08-11-2012 07:56 PM
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bigger
08-08-2012
01:09 AM ET (US)
Good luck!
I was actually starting to suspect that you are my evil counter partner or something. But now it seems like our roles are identical. Which makes me think mindworms, or the ability to use mindworms is a real threat. Why else would Bigger make two exact roles? I think it's to make sure that the info gets out here, even if one of us would have got killed before today. Sorry, I got no extra info... Bigger, good job with the paranoia though 