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WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

waterbat Wrote:bigger - can you throw down an official vote count?


I'm persuaded by Selrahc's argument but I'll be honest with you guys - I hate making the deciding vote.

Actually - Don't give an official vote count. I'm more likely to follow my gut than worry about being the one to tip the scales.

Sareln

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Selrahc gives me too much credit and then tries to damn me with that praise. I would argue that my play this game has been far outside my norm with the extreme of lurking instead of the normal to moderate amount. But maybe it doesn't seem that way from the outside? alright
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Just to get a vote in, as of post 580 Lewwyn screams to me as non-village, so will park there for now
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I think it is very likely that one of the players in the "drone saga" is a wolf, but even after having finally taken the time to (more) carefully read over the last couple days of posts, I am finding it difficult to tell who.


Sareln's assumption that "I know that I'm a villager, so if there are no other drones in the game, then one of BrickAstley or Mattimeo is NAP" doesn't make much sense from a logical standpoint, but I assume he's going off of the same meta-game intuition I am that it doesn't make much sense for this game to have a villager (Brick) whose power counters the abilities of two other villagers (Sareln, Mattimeo).


Mattimeo's counter-argument to Sareln that there may be other drones still strikes me as an odd thing to say. If both Mattimeo and Sareln are village (or at least just being truthful regarding their powers), then are we to assume there may be as many as three people who all share the same "cause a riot" power? I haven't played in many WW games (just five or so on RB), but that much redundancy seems really strange. So, why argue that there are could be more additional drones? Why bring it up? Maybe Sareln's right, and there's more to Mattimeo's role than he's letting on.


Still, I'm not seeing firm enough evidence to vote against him either. Maybe the best play is lynch one, and then the other if we kill a villager. Although then Brick is getting entirely off the hook, and it's a move based entirely on meta-game logic.
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Jkaen Wrote:Just to get a vote in, as of post 580 Lewwyn screams to me as non-village, so will park there for now


What? Lewwyn being Lewwyn and casting a poorly-warranted but non-binding vote on somebody "screams" wolf to you? Lewwyn isn't a confirmed villager, but I can think of a lot better reasons to vote for somebody than what you just provided. It's not like we exactly lack for suspicious parties at the moment, what with the recent succession of role claims and alleged behind-the-scenes communications.
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Bobchillingworth Wrote:I think it is very likely that one of the players in the "drone saga" is a wolf, but even after having finally taken the time to (more) carefully read over the last couple days of posts, I am finding it difficult to tell who.

Seriously agreed.
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So mattimeo was scanned but scan failed.

We assume roleblocker, but not sure wolves had that. Pindicator was a roleblocker, of sorts.

And what about the message to qgqqqqq. Maniac is the NAP role-blocker. Mabye intention was to assure us (incept the idea) that NAPs had a roleblocker.

Mattimeo is probably hanging tonight regardless. But after about 20 minutes of back-and-forth thinking I have changed my mind.

Mattimeo for NAPpie nails the coffin shut. Prevents any last minute ninja-voting, even if that might not be a bad thing as it could give us two wolves next lynch. But not sure tie is good, there is some tie-breaking mechanic in game, and mabye that can be exploited by evil-doers.

I'll admit to looking at the mattimeo-voters too and feeling better about landing there.
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vote tally:
mattimeo (7) - zakalwe, sareln, serdoa, Lewwyn, meiz, injera, molach
sareln (4) - BrickAstley, slowcheetah, Selrahc, waterbat
thestick(3) - maniac, bobchillingsworth, mattimeo,
maniac - thestick
jkaen - Qgqqqq
lewwyn - jkaen


6 minutes-ish
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Quick check in, have to run again.

Sareln, between lurking and thinking that being quiet attracts nightkills.
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fyi, no time for a write-up tonight. long day, and I'm running on very little sleep so I'm quite sure whatever I came up with would not meet Molach's approval wink (plus vote was close so I wasn't sure who would lynch). I'll write something in morning and edit it in (5-6 hours before night deadline.

I will, however, still wait about 10 minutes after deadline to post results, just to build standard suspense and tease everyone. And cuz I can hehe.
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voting closed. mattimeo is lynched, I believe, by a tally of 7 to 5. checking votes to make sure before I post results.
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
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