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WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

Meiz Wrote:Also interesting line at the end: "I personally think Zakalwe is most likely NAP of them, just by how he voted and wrote in defense of Injera. But misguided villager would do that too."
Yes, everyone was gonna vote meiz next day, I would have gone for zakalwe. Zakalwe could be misguided villager. That is his only defense. And is zakalwe usually a misguided villager? No.

Meiz Wrote:Waterbat slips that Molach is a drone

He said that he has the explanation for it. What was it, Molach?*
He also mentioned that Nap probably has an explanation too. What did you mean by it?**

Funnily Zak offers the explanation, but Molach doesn't understand***

* Waterbat was name seer
** NAP realized waterbat was name seer
*** Zakalwe's explanation was that novice had scanned me night 1 and let slip to his NAP buddy waterbat. This I did not graps. It was later on explained by others.

Meiz Wrote:Like said, Molach is leaning villager more than Sareln.
Leaning.
LEANING??

No I'm not angry just wondering where you are going with this. Im just 'more likely' to be village than Sareln, so since one is 'obviously' NAP we must lynch him? And mabye if he turns village you have a go at me? I think we're past that stage now. Besides we don't know which drone to go for, they might even all be villagers, one with a suicidal ability.

No, zakalwe's alignment shows that they DID try to mislynch selrahc yesterday and they WERE trying to keep injera alive. My vote, taking him from 2 to 3 was both unexpected and devastating to the case and nothing a NAP would do. I had like a trillion reasons to stay on sareln, and as NAP would have done that. Selrahc's role claim sealed the deal, although NAP should have expected something of the sort, either doctor or name seer.

However Sareln-Meiz as missing NAP could make sense, as sareln was saved by zakalwe on mattimeo, and meiz switching as well. Reason for switch was same as I gave, but in hindsight it might have been a NAP-saving move.

Yeah I know I switched too, but I voted for Injera and meiz didn't. I wrong, like I was trying to get pindicator and slowcheetah lynched too. Thanks for nightkilling them and saving me the embarrasment, whoever did that.

And first time Jkaen came back after his first disappearance he said something about 3 days good cover, then possible some uncover later on. Mabye the weekend.

Lewwyn
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Molach Wrote:*** Zakalwe's explanation was that novice had scanned me night 1 and let slip to his NAP buddy waterbat. This I did not graps. It was later on explained by others.

No it was in fact explained by zakalwe right after. Anyway I did not grasp it because I had village reads on waterbat whole game. Day 1, as you will recall. He didn't fake the bitterness after last game.
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Jkaen Wrote:Hi guys sorry for the AWOL, went back home and should have been able to get online fairly regularly, but due to a variety of reasons it didnt happen. Jumped on quickly now, will have real access for next 3 days, rubbish or none for 3 days after that then back to normal.

Will vote when I get to my hotel for the night and can read through all i missed
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Last quote 20th august
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Molach Wrote:* Waterbat was name seer
** NAP realized waterbat was name seer
*** Zakalwe's explanation was that novice had scanned me night 1 and let slip to his NAP buddy waterbat. This I did not graps. It was later on explained by others.
Ok, makes sense.

Molach Wrote:Leaning.
LEANING??
Heh, relax... smile Did my post came out as accusing? If it was, it was not intended.

Molach Wrote:No I'm not angry just wondering where you are going with this. Im just 'more likely' to be village than Sareln, so since one is 'obviously' NAP we must lynch him? And mabye if he turns village you have a go at me? I think we're past that stage now. Besides we don't know which drone to go for, they might even all be villagers, one with a suicidal ability.
The point I was trying to make was that 3 drones with 1 Nap makes sense to me from metagame perspective. I think this is most likely, since BRick as a Nap would have most likely kept quiet on the details of his role. With this in mind, I think Sareln is much more likely Napper than you are.
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Last post, np.

Molach Wrote:However Sareln-Meiz as missing NAP could make sense, as sareln was saved by zakalwe on mattimeo, and meiz switching as well. Reason for switch was same as I gave, but in hindsight it might have been a NAP-saving move.

I'll moderate what I said here. There are of course several other pair making sense as NAP. What I should have said is that I think Sareln-Meiz are now linked in alignment. At least if Sareln is village Meiz is village too, a NAP would prolly not do such a noticable switch from a villager to another. But if Sareln is NAP then the switch makes a lot of sense to save him. So likely that Meiz is NAP too, although a stupid misguided villager might make such a switch too. It's been known to happen.
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Gah stupid no edit.

And people screaming "No that switch would have led to lynch later on, since Sareln was getting lynched next and so ...bla bla bla" it's very frequent that the one who just barely did not get lynched gets a free pass for a while. See thestick here, pretty close to lynched first day, but later nothing has stuck. Especially day 2 there were hardly any votes.

So I did push Sareln start of yesterday, only BRickAstley followed me on that. Rest were busy lynching Lewwyn and Selrahc. So I think such switches are not that unlikely.

They did commit to save Injera.
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In airport lounge now on the way back. will try to catch up on what i have missed. will check after this post every few minutes incvase anybody needs me to respond to anything. Have about an hour before i need to go to my gate
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Lewwyn Wrote:I was looking through the posts after my initial claim, looking particularly at zak and Jkaen's reaction since I now know one of them is Marr, and rediscovered this:





They come directly after each other. You guys are pretty funny.

This was laughing at the pink text here, not the content
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Serdoa Wrote:- Jkaen: Don't vote Injera? Seriously? Would a wolf be so obvious to save another one? I somehow doubt that. Yes it could be a try to get someone to post exactly what I posted now but that seems too desperate as we believe to have another 3 NAPs left. I'm leaning to villager but a good explanation is needed and soon.

Drunk alliterate post was my last chance to get online before I lost internet until just now. So couldn't have switched even if i wanted to
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