Quote:Is this game dead? 21 hours with no posts, including no response to Meiz' killing?
This really isn't all that surprising. We're down to a small group now, Selrahc lacks internet (see his post in the Planetfall PBEM I tech thread), and the result probably came in at like 1 AM or something for Molach.
I am not sure why Meiz died in the night- I'm also not sure
how Meiz died in the night. Protection vs. Mindworms, but his death write-up implies Planet involvement (the random words quote), and there's no death note.
I also scanned Selrahc last night- he's a doctor. This doesn't leave many suspects left for who might be a worm, if there is one. I am also wondering whether the "mindworm" really is just a form of NAP night-attack, like an atrocity. I think I suggested that earlier, actually. Selrahc being a doctor does lead (some) credence to his baner claim, since the names are often interchangeable roles.
I think today we have to focus on resolving the Drone Saga, something which we honestly should have done two lynches ago, and I fully admit to bearing direct responsibility for getting us off-track with my running after Jkaen and Maniac. We have been over this a thousand times already, but here is an up-to-date & brief accounting of suspicions against both Molach and BRick:
Note- a lot of this is based on the metagame. I'm sorry, I wish I had something better to go off of for a lot of these entries.
Brick
* If we have three village drones, his power is pure anti-village and makes no sense for anyone not NAP.
* His vote on Injera came too late to matter (although he claims RL justification).
* It makes sense for one of the wolves to have an atrocity unlocked, and so far only the village has had any.
Molach
* Three villagers all with the exact same power seems unlikely- and his drone power would pair well with a more substantial wolf role-blocker role.
* The diary, which initially gave him significant village cred, upon further reflection seems more and more to me like the result of a wolf-cover operation. Remember that the wolves had a day or so to coordinate before the game began, due to roles being sent out early. Including the throw-away first day, the wolves would have had plenty of time to create a false diary document which could be handed off to any wolf in danger for cover. Indeed, there's no reason to believe that it was ever even written in a quicktopic- the formatting could easily have been faked in notepad or Word.
* One bit of new evidence- Molach voted to save Brick during the Jkaen lynch. Okay, not so strange at first blush. But consider- Molach himself noted that if Brick hung & was innocent, he'd be likely to go next, and couldn't allow that risk were he a wolf. I think he may have been telling the truth.
Now, Molach did vote to lynch Injera, and the vote he cast was an important one too. This is to his distinct credit. But I wonder now if that was all wolf cover. It makes sense that one wolf would have been voting for Injera, just probably not more than one. And that lynch came late at night for Europe- Molach may not have even been online in time to save his buddy, even if he had wanted to.
I keep going back & forth on this mentally, but for now I'm going to have to vote for
Molach.
Now, there is also both waterbat and Selrahc. Neither is above suspicion, although I think our best bet is to resolve the festering Drone Saga. But I'll do summaries for both anyway.
Waterbat has read village to me for a long time now. His voting record isn't actually all that great- he voted for Selrahc instead of Injera, and indeed never voted for any known wolf except one placed on Novice after Serdoa outed him. But he kept quiet about the on-coming Zakalwe kill, and his often incredibly strange theories just aren't the kind of stuff I've ever heard of any wolf doing. I
guess I could see it if he was a wolf, and I def. could if he was third party (it fits his power), and I'll scan him next if the village doesn't win or lose by next day (and if I'm still alive obviously). If we lynch a wolf today and then I die in the night, he's a good lynch target for whoever remains. He was trying to get a band-wagon secret voting system going in his private conversation w/ me on day three, which could be interpreted either way. I didn't find it particularly suspicious at the time.
Essentially, he could be a bad guy, but I'd rather focus elsewhere given the option between the obviously strange metagame situation with the drones, and vague suppositions vs. waterbat.
Selrahc does
not read village. Hell, he's the only person here who
doesn't. He has bizarre vendettas, he will not shut the hell up about how crap from SMAC relates to our WW game, probably at least a third of his total posts are just attacking Lewwyn and another third are spent defending himself.
That said, I think he's village. Not a helpful villager, but village regardless. I base this on a few grounds. First, I now know that he's a doctor, which as I mentioned above does fit the baner claim. Second, this isn't an argument for innocence, but it is worth noting that the last two people to hang didn't sound like villagers, and both were, while if we have two hostiles left in this game (very likely), at least one of them
does sound like a villager.
Third, I wrote this during the previous day, but his behavior (plus the known wolves') during the Injera lynch makes no sense if he's a wolf. Why would he go to such lengths to spare himself over another wolf,
when the wolves could very conceivably have banded together to kill Lewwyn?
Think about it. If Selrahc is a wolf, then there's him, Zak, Injera all online at the same time up until the lynch deadline (they were all actively posting), and Lewwyn already had two votes on him from villagers who were not longer online for the day. With Zak being able to double-vote Lew, and with the margin of votes involved to get a lynch (selrahc was leading before his role-claim with 6, but that was
with Injera voting against him- something else which makes
no sense if they're both wolves), it would have been simple for the wolves to marshal the votes Lewwyn swingeing. Sure it would have looked odd, but the way it played out Injera died and Zak ended up seeming strange and got immediately killed by Lewwyn (who they could have voted to death, were Selrahc wolf) anyway. It just doesn't make sense at all to me.
Okay, that was a bit of text spent defending Selrahc, who up until this point I honestly have not cared much about. But at this point we almost certainly cannot afford a mislynch. I'm not the biggest fan of the way he has played this game, but I think that if we lynch him today, we've lost, so out comes the wall of text.
I can also post an analysis / defense of myself if anybody wants one, although that seems kind of self-indulgent.
Oh and also there's an off chance that two of you are wolves and the other two are 3rd faction. If that's the case, screw all of you
