Alright, here goes. Disclaimer: If this sucks it's solely because Rowain is rushing me
I had a look at the player list and picked out 2 groups of players to narrow down the field, based on the theory of the wolves generally being less experienced and less active:
1) Those I think are less experienced
2) Those I think have been less active
(I refrained from putting myself in both groups)
1)
Gaspar
Sareln
Ichabod
Molach
Selrahc
Arromir
2)
Azza
tasunke
Arromir
Qgqqqqq
If you can kindly give me a little bit more time, I'm going to have a look at those 9 and see if I feel strongly enough about any of them.
Lewwyn Wrote:Just to be clear... You don't like the momentum behind the votes against Qg? There are currently 3 votes on Qg: Novice, Rowain and Selrahc. Catwalk was on him but unvoted. I considered going on him too, but haven't yet. So I don't see a ton of momentum on Qg here. There are only 3 votes. Basically you're saying you don't like Novice being on someone you don't suspect?
fair enough. There hadn't been a tally (dropping the ball here Rowain...) and I thought he had more votes than that. Really I didn't realize how many Sareln had :o
Jkaen Wrote:Hmm Sareln really needs to appear to defend himself. Not sure right now what a lynch either way will actually tell us.
If nothing else, it will tell us if he's guilty or not! But seriously, if we wait for Sareln to defend himself we might as well just agree to never lynch him! This is how Sareln always defends himself: say nothing, wait for the village to get bored and move onto another target it mostly works.
That said, I'm willing to prop up uberfish as an alternate candidate. Perhaps a closer race will give us more info. I am fairly certain one of them is scum anyway, and I'm happy with either lynch. In fact, I think its quite plausible with 6 mafia (I assume) that both of them are scum.
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
I can think of two different reasons why a villager Matt would not protect novice or zak. Ichabod v. Sareln pOst later
Merovech's Mapmaking Guidelines:
0. Player Requests: The player's requests take precedence, even if they contradict the following guidelines.
1. Balance: The map must be balanced, both in regards to land quality and availability and in regards to special civilization features. A map may be wonderfully unique and surprising, but, if it is unbalanced, the game will suffer and the player's enjoyment will not be as high as it could be.
2. Identity and Enjoyment: The map should be interesting to play at all levels, from city placement and management to the border-created interactions between civilizations, and should include varied terrain. Flavor should enhance the inherent pleasure resulting from the underlying tile arrangements. The map should not be exceedingly lush, but it is better to err on the lush side than on the poor side when placing terrain.
3. Feel (Avoiding Gimmicks): The map should not be overwhelmed or dominated by the mapmaker's flavor. Embellishment of the map through the use of special improvements, barbarian units, and abnormal terrain can enhance the identity and enjoyment of the map, but should take a backseat to the more normal aspects of the map. The game should usually not revolve around the flavor, but merely be accented by it.
4. Realism: Where possible, the terrain of the map should be realistic. Jungles on desert tiles, or even next to desert tiles, should therefore have a very specific reason for existing. Rivers should run downhill or across level ground into bodies of water. Irrigated terrain should have a higher grassland to plains ratio than dry terrain. Mountain chains should cast rain shadows. Islands, mountains, and peninsulas should follow logical plate tectonics.
Catwalk Wrote:1) Those I think are less experienced
1)
Gaspar
Sareln
Ichabod
Molach
Selrahc
Arromir
.
everyone on that list except for Arromir has experience on realms beyond, both as villager and scum. Gaspar and Selrahc especially have been scum multiple times, and the other 3 at least once that I'm aware of.
also, I really don't think the idea that scum is a bunch of noobs is valid, or a safe assumption at all (especially if you carry through with that thought process and assume we should have an easier path to victory). The fact that Zak AND novice were both attacked last night hints that at least one of the scum is a vet.
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
Catwalk Wrote:I had a look at the player list and picked out 2 groups of players to narrow down the field, based on the theory of the wolves generally being less experienced and less active:
2 things:
Where does this theorie stem from?
I'm not so much interested in a detailed list over all 23 other players. I'm interested in whom you want to lynch and why. 2-3 candidates are enough.
Bigger Wrote:everyone on that list except for Arromir has experience on realms beyond, both as villager and scum. Gaspar and Selrahc especially have been scum multiple times, and the other 3 at least once that I'm aware of.
He most likely exchanged 1 and 2 in his list. The 4 under 2 are those inexperienced and those under 1 the inactive
Rowain Wrote:2 things:
Where does this theorie stem from?
I'm not so much interested in a detailed list over all 23 other players. I'm interested in whom you want to lynch and why. 2-3 candidates are enough.
sorry, this is funny:
Rowain: you do you think is guilty?
Catwalk: so much pressure. well here is a bunch of inexperienced players (lists 5 people with plenty of experience). here is 4 players who are less active (leaves off the 3 people with the least posts so far: Selrahc, Molach, Sareln).
Catwalk cont: now let me analyze this data, I'll be back with a spreadsheet later
Really, Catwalk. hmm, I don't really know what to think about that.
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
Quote:everyone on that list except for Arromir has experience on realms beyond,
He has flipped the lists. 1 refers to less active, 2 to less experienced.
Working under the assumption that it's the right theory to be holding is definitely jumping the gun at this point. But a Sareln lynch might be valauable as a corroboraating or refuting point...
Really, if it's a team of new and inactive players, the village needs very little help to win. Playing wolf is hard!
Selrahc Wrote:He has flipped the lists. 1 refers to less active, 2 to less experienced.
Working under the assumption that it's the right theory to be holding is definitely jumping the gun at this point. But a Sareln lynch might be valauable as a corroboraating or refuting point...
Really, if it's a team of new and inactive players, the village needs very little help to win. Playing wolf is hard!
ok, that makes much more sense. But Gaspar doesn't belong on either list, he's been plenty active as well.
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
it mostly works.
