WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Gaspar]

Bleh - lot of noise and uh, more noise. I actually think villagers are making most of the noise and the scum is just cackling and rolling a blunt, to coin a phrase.

I think we're just eating lynchbait. Qgqqqqq is pretty clearly lynch bait to me, he seems like he's trying just has a few restrictions in terms of RL and is still getting his feet wet in the game. I learned my lesson a while ago about defending Sareln but just seems so lazy to me. Its not like we're going to draw him out, he really hasn't done anything yet and while lurker as policy lynch isn't so bad I think we have more information out there than that.

Catwalk - eh. He's the crown prince of tinfoil hats. So its hard to say whether this crazy is a reaction to pressure or just usually crazy. Its incredibad town play, though. I think he's a legit candidate but I'd still like to hear something from Ichy body before moving on. As in an actual post with some scumhunting thoughts rather than dead silence.

On an aside, I think its very scummy to ask what Mattimeo did specifically. But I don't think its scummy to ask his rationale behind not protecting zak. So, eh, wtf Matt?

[waterbat]

For lewwyn (has nothing to do with this game of WW):

Did you post in response to BronzeHammer's comment on this story?

http://deadspin.com/5944158/ref-tells-le...t=52765480

"GET OUT OF MY HEAD"!

[Lewwyn]

For lewwyn (has nothing to do with this game of WW):

Did you post in response to BronzeHammer's comment on this story?

http://deadspin.com/5944158/ref-tells-le...t=52765480

"GET OUT OF MY HEAD"!

Haha no, but I did see that story. Crazy...

Bed.

[Bigger]

I learned my lesson a while ago about defending Sareln but just seems so lazy to me. Its not like we're going to draw him out, he really hasn't done anything yet and while lurker as policy lynch isn't so bad I think we have more information out there than that.

Are you kidding? This is just about the perfect time to "policy lynch" Sareln - in fact if we don't, we might as well just make a pact that Sareln can't ever be lynched in any ww game! Not only are we up a lynch already (really, how often is a wolf really lynched on day 1), making the risk considerably less, but we have real friggin' scum tells on Sareln, despite him only have 5 of the 662 posts in this thread so far! If we don't policy lynch him now, what reason could there be to policy anyone at anytime ever?

In fact, fuck, uberfish can wait until another day
Sareln

[Rowain]

Rowain, you're being pretty pushy. If you're just curious and trying to encourage us to contribute that's fine, but it read more like a threat to me. I don't like posting suspicions and arguments if I have little to go on.

My question was:

waterbat, catwalk whom do you suspect and why?
Give us your thoughts and reasons.

and not asking for a list of all names with useless info in it. Besides are you telling me that you play WW and have not some people you suspect to be scum with reasoning behind? They might be weak but they ares something. You are seemingly so much afraid what others make from your post that that again screams scum to me.

Bleh - lot of noise and uh, more noise. I actually think villagers are making most of the noise and the scum is just cackling and rolling a blunt, to coin a phrase.

You know that description (of rolling a blunt) fits you quite nicely. How about you step down from the peanut-gallery and try some scum-hunting? Your contribution today isn't really somethng to write home about.
PS: you used the lot of noise already lst night.

[uberfish]

Now p646, questioning what seems to be obvious to others and not wanting to be a sheep, is the style of post I expect from village TT. The question is, why didn't we get anything like that from him yesterday around the point where the Mattimeo wagon formed and disbanded?

Also, note that TT is voting me, which implies that he believes that Thestick was NOT bussed. (because if the plan was to bus Thestick, then if I was a wolf I obviously wouldn't have tried to save him later.) So, why is he also holding the position that Novice could have bussed thestick?

Regarding qqq his original statement was that he voted me because of a "slew" of confusing posts, he's clarified that to my attack on Novice only and I find that explanation acceptable. However I'm still confused as to why he talked about unvoting (and whom he was referring to.)

Do not like the reasoning in Bigger's #623 where he states that Sareln defends himself by lurking off the pressure until people get bored with voting him... and immediately gets bored with voting Sareln and switches to me. The argument that one of Sareln and myself must be scum is, at best, lazy.

[Sareln]

I have a meeting I need to do before I can give time to this.

For now, congratulations Tasunke, repetition without facts (or very few if you want to count your harping on my fluffy first post which still had votes in it!) can indeed get you somewhere.

I do not trust Novice at this point enough for a mayor vote.

I still prefer Lewwyn for that role.

On first read-through completion, Catwalk for the noose.

@ Bigger, if I recall correctly I've been lynched every game but one (where I was night-killed). You're over-exaggerating and I'm not sure why. Perhaps you've just joined us too recently to know, but I held the moniker "the mislynchable" for a while there before Tasunke showed up .

[Twinkletoes89]

Now p646, questioning what seems to be obvious to others and not wanting to be a sheep, is the style of post I expect from village TT. The question is, why didn't we get anything like that from him yesterday around the point where the Mattimeo wagon formed and disbanded?

I believed Mattimeo's claim and was one of the first to question thestick's. I don't think Mattimeo's wagon had enough momentum to overtake thestick for the lynch. My posts weren't there because I don't think they were required.

Also, note that TT is voting me, which implies that he believes that Thestick was NOT bussed. (because if the plan was to bus Thestick, then if I was a wolf I obviously wouldn't have tried to save him later.) So, why is he also holding the position that Novice could have bussed thestick?

Don't twist my words. I don't know if thestick was bussed or not, only the wolves do. Also, whether he was or not, I am certain that all the wolves wouldn't have been involved in it so to suggest that suspicion of you and novice is wrong/misguided just due to that is ridiculous imo.

I am trying to ensure that the village doesn't go off trusting people who are in no way confirmed yet (hence my notice of suspicion on novice) and directing towards people I think are guilty (you at the moment)

[Injera]

On Qg - I agree on waiting to hear more until he has access to a better device to communicate with. What bothers me most his series of posts is how the quality degrades over time. It feels panicky. Does anyone remember if he was under significant pressure last game?

Waterbat and Injera: why are you answering my question for Arromir? Anyway you guys missed the point.

No, I didn't answer his question for him (and "miss the point.") I couldn't figure out what he was talking about so I searched his name myself to find out. As for searching his own name, it's possibly sketchy as it could be a cover for faking inactivity but feeling he needs to respond to direct accusations. We've seen new villagers play for survival instead of the village before, though.

Ugh, not nice putting me on the spot like that. I tend to piggyback other people's suspicions after a few mostly confirmed townies have been identified.

The thing here is that you've written more posts than anyone else but novice despite being busy the first day. So you've spent time on the game, if you're a villager trying to win you should be trying to hunt wolves, or at least have some significant ideas. You're out here pressing about Mattimeo's power (which is just horrible for the village if Matt is a villager like you believe) when you could be hunting wolves.

If nothing else, it will tell us if he's guilty or not! But seriously, if we wait for Sareln to defend himself we might as well just agree to never lynch him! This is how Sareln always defends himself: say nothing, wait for the village to get bored and move onto another target it mostly works.

Yeah, the big issue for me is that he was able to make the time to watch the end of day vote closely enough to catch the Mattimeo switch. That was a pretty small window of time- the whole thing from switch to wagon to claim to non-wagon took under an hour.

ok, that makes much more sense. But Gaspar doesn't belong on either list, he's been plenty active as well.

Not as active as you might think. More active than the lurkers, for sure, but a lot of his activity was involved in our squabble. After that was sort of resolved he disappeared until late vote, then he's been back a bit sporadically. That being said, I think the idea of specifically hunting less active or experienced players is a bad one. We have plenty of other stuff to go on.

[SIZE="4"]2) Injera: the Electrician[/SIZE]
Seemed like Injera the wolf to me. Perhaps I've played with him as wolf-buddy one time too many and just am colored by it.

Funny, the first thing I thought of when I saw your list was the list I made in WW14. If you think I seem like a wolf why did I not make your wolf team?

I'm actually getting more of an impression of a villager going digging every time he posts. Can't help but think a wolf would have either stopped by now, or at least been fed some better points...

Like thestick was?



x-posted with Sareln and TT. Also, sorry for the long post, had to get caught up to a dozen pages.

[Gaspar]

Are you kidding? This is just about the perfect time to "policy lynch" Sareln - in fact if we don't, we might as well just make a pact that Sareln can't ever be lynched in any ww game! Not only are we up a lynch already (really, how often is a wolf really lynched on day 1), making the risk considerably less, but we have real friggin' scum tells on Sareln, despite him only have 5 of the 662 posts in this thread so far! If we don't policy lynch him now, what reason could there be to policy anyone at anytime ever?

I have no problem with a policy lynch if there are no quality candidates. I just wonder why we had a bunch of quality options EOD1 and now we're all LETS LYNCH SARELN LOL or LETS LYNCH QQQUEUEQQCUE LMAOZ. Its as if we've all decided we're going to roleplay Lewwyn from the first couple days last game.

You know that description (of rolling a blunt) fits you quite nicely. How about you step down from the peanut-gallery and try some scum-hunting? Your contribution today isn't really somethng to write home about.
PS: you used the lot of noise already lst night.

Perhaps. I use lot of noise a lot when I perceive lots of noise. I actually have a hardtime scumhunting in this environment because I just zone out when I think I hear villagers fighting other villagers over nothing. But I'm still waiting for answers to two questions:

1. Why was Ichabod a good candidate yesterday and nothing today when he's not so much as posted?
   
2. Why did Mattimeo not protect obvtarget zakalwe?
   

While neither of those might fit your personal definition of scumhunting, I assure you in both cases I believe them to lead us in the direction of scum.

Perhaps you've just joined us too recently to know, but I held the moniker "the mislynchable" for a while there before Tasunke showed up .

This. I think of Sareln as a pretty easy and pretty lazy lynch. Now, on a day1/2 where we have no information - sure. But everyone was pretty convinced we have a lot of information from yesterday. (I don't agree with this, btw - I think we got a bit of information and a whole lot of lazy scumtells for people who don't actually know how to look for scumtells.)