WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[uberfish]

Tas, I think Novice-Sareln being partners is a bad theory for the same reason I think myself being scum with Novice is a bad theory. Why would Sareln incriminate himself like that if he knew Thestick was going down to a bus anyway?

Serdoa, I never find it easy to read Ichabod, but then I don't remember actually playing in the same game as him when he was scum - and I skim all the long posts when I'm GMing or spectating so that doesn't help. Can you give me a game number for Ichabod emotional scum please?

If we're going to vote someone for trying to save thestick, TT, Pind, Mero are all better choices than Sareln imo. Funnily enough they're all voting Sareln... Again I think sareln is cautious and not really one to play bold "too wolfish to be a wolf" gambits... I can see Mero being new enough to jump on Bigger at the last minute though, and Catwalk as just generally oblivious enough to others' opinion of his play to do it.

Also, Novice

[Ichabod]

By the way, if you told me that I didn't pay attention to the big meanings of day 1 and only defended myself, I could actually agree with your thoughts.

But throwing that Uberfish comment in there... That was low and actually pretty suspicious (yeah, same thing I did to Uberfish, I called a post scummy... Guess that only confirms your case, right?).

[Ichabod]

Pindicator

[uberfish]

Yes, I was on Mattimeo. Good eye, Rowain! Why was I on Mattimeo? We had several people (uberfish & serdoa IIRC) saying they wanted to vote Mattimeo but they didn't think anybody would support them so they wouldn't do it. That struck me as suspicious - not that a person says they might vote, that happens a lot; but that several people were saying it. So I decided to look at Mattimeo and then gave a vote to see who would follow. I was very surprised by the amount of votes it received and how fast they came in.

Very similar to the way votes came in on me, I think.

I don't believe that.

If you were voting mattimeo just to reaction fish, and didn't suspect him, you'd have pulled your vote when the wagon started and not waited for Matt to claim.

And why would you not say anything about the reaction test until now??

Pindicator

[novice]

IMO, this makes catwalk and injera more suspicious, zak and (novice? Was he the other early guy on thestick? Hard to check and type on my phone) and bigger and Matt less suspicious.

novice? Was he the other early guy on thestick?

IMO, this makes

Merovech

less suspicious.

[Gaspar]

I don't get the Sareln thing - just seems everyone trying to be too clever. He did a ton of scumhunting last night, that struck me as very villagery. I don't think we should get so caught up in voting trends when we only know 2 players alignments for sure - there's a lot we don't know yet. It'll be more useful in 2-3 days after we have some more confirms.

Ichabod vote is pure tone for me, but that's how I vote, usually. There are other lunches I could get behind - Catwalk, Selrahc for two - but I don't get the Sareln thing. I haven't played with Pindicator enough to have a solid baseline there but I do think he's prone to peculiar play.

[novice]

why would you not say anything about the reaction test until now??

Pindicator

Pindicator

novice

[uberfish]

Novice, I didn't get #975.

[Ichabod]

Novice, I didn't get #975.

I guess it meant the following:

The way Merovech didn't remember who was the second guy (novice) to early vote for thestick (he only remembered Zak, who made the first vote) makes Novice think he's less suspicious.

Probably because, if he was a wolf, he would know pretty well what happened during the forming of thestick train.

[Tasunke]

He is saying that Merovech is looking innocent because he thinks Novice is innocent (based on being an "early" voter on TheSTick) and not much else. ...