September 20th, 2012, 02:38
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Ahh rereading my sentence is does look garbage, the main reason is i typed 'say' not 'saw' (my punctuation as always, is horrible too)
September 20th, 2012, 02:47
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Catwalk Wrote:Also, I like the part where I ask if anyone wants to join me on Ichabod and clarifying the vote mechanics followed by Serdoa voting Sareln, regretting it and it somehow all being my fault. If either Ichabod or pindicator turns wolf, I see a very obvious explanation for that course of events. But without proof of either of those, I acknowledge that he may well simply have been confused and paranoid.
God you start to really piss me off catwalk. REALLY. I was not confused nor paranoid at all at any point yesterday. I knew very well what I did.
As for you asking who wants to join you on Ichabod? ARE YOU KIDDING? Are you honestly not able to gather from a tally I just made the standing between the 3 top suspects and who voted for them? Do you really think asking 2 fucking minutes before deadline who wants to join you is going to achieve anything before deadline? No it is not. People having a hard time even putting down a post in that time. No way you can read it and then vote - especially with the kind of comprehension issues you have.
You just are a coward who first hid behind novice and then behind the "unknown" rules. Or a scum. Probably the latter.
September 20th, 2012, 02:53
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novice Wrote:NBD = No Big Deal? Who says it's no big deal?
Maybe Gaspar interpreted this:
Bigger Wrote:I like Ichabod's defense, and don't suspect Pindicator, so I would have been back on Sareln as well. sucks that he was innocent, but I don't think it was a bad lynch.
Bigger Wrote:I think its very plausible a village novice would fake a post restriction. Please tell me a good reason why a villager (no matter if novice or not) would fake that restriction? Even more why you think it very plausible that he did so.
September 20th, 2012, 02:55
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Not specifically targetted at anybody, but from just having read through the end of day 2, I have a request
Having been on the recieving end of it last game, and it really killing my enjoyment of the game, can I request from everybody we try to keep things as civil as possible in this game.
I know people get invested in everything, and hence emotional, but it seems each WW game we play the comments get more and more personnal.
Can everybody just try to keep a lid on this sort of thing as best they can please?
September 20th, 2012, 02:58
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Rowain Wrote:Please tell me a good reason why a villager (no matter if novice or not) would fake that restriction? Even more why you think it very plausible that he did so.
The theory kind of falls apart with Novice first stating it was a day, and then it becoming clear it doesn't cover the night, but how about:
Number 1 night kill target is probably novice.
He would like if possible to survive longer to help the village
If post restricted he seems less useful, hence wolves may prioritise a different kill instead (Lewwyn for example, who has a reputation as a good hunter)
Hence faking a post restriction means he may survive the night, and does no real harm to the village
(Note I dont know thing this was actually faked, but there is a possible theory for you)
September 20th, 2012, 02:59
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doh 'know thing' = 'now think'
September 20th, 2012, 03:01
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pindicator Wrote:The ichabod vote was self-preservation. When I noticed that a sareln vote got me just as close to not being mislynched, I put my vote on what I thought was the better lynch.
Why did you believe that it was better to lynch Sareln (who has made an effort on scumhunting and brought forth a case) than Ichabod who's posts to contain many words but nothing besides 'I'm not scum'?
To be clear: I have no problem with you voting Sareln to save your skin but this argument is simple not true.
September 20th, 2012, 03:06
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Serdoa, there was a very big bunch of people around at lynch time, so yes I think switching was realistic. If you wanted to hang Ichabod, you could have simply stuck with him (with 3 minutes left) and checked to see if I switched or not. And you could have answered my question rather than mislead me about it. And Ichabod would have hung. How is that not your responsibility? Also, notice that I asked for a tally the same instant you posted one. Were you unaware we x-posted or are you throwing dirt on me for shits and giggles? However, there is an easy solution to this. You claim I was protecting Ichabod (even though I was apparently protecting Sareln throughout the day), I claim I was happy to see Ichabod hang. I'm still happy to see him hang tomorrow, depending on what happens. You said he should have hung, so I assume you still think he's a good lynch candidate. If we both back a lynch on him tomorrow, that ought to alleviate some of the mutual distrust and we can find out if either was actually protecting him or if it was just a misunderstanding.
And I agree with Jkaen. Not just for sake of enjoying the game, but hostility tends to mask things and give scum an easier time blending in. It also makes discussions between townies a lot less productive.
Jkaen, I don't think it's impossible that novice faked a post restriction. But as I pointed out earlier, it requires that either Mattimeo is in on it or novice decided to risk being busted if he was protected. If Mattimeo does indeed turn up wolf and novice somehow starts looking more scummy, it wouldn't be a bad idea to investigate the post restriction theory. Until then, it's a crackpot theory that generated a lot of noise. I tend to believe that noise was deliberate, although it was not very subtle if scum were openly undermining novice. I think Tasunke fully believed what his tinfoil hat was telling him, less sure of Bigger.
September 20th, 2012, 03:07
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Jkaen Wrote:The theory kind of falls apart with Novice first stating it was a day, and then it becoming clear it doesn't cover the night, but how about:
Number 1 night kill target is probably novice.
He would like if possible to survive longer to help the village
If post restricted he seems less useful, hence wolves may prioritise a different kill instead (Lewwyn for example, who has a reputation as a good hunter)
Hence faking a post restriction means he may survive the night, and does no real harm to the village
(Note I dont know thing this was actually faked, but there is a possible theory for you) Tell me why would the wolves refrain from killing villager novice when they know that they had not given him the PR = it is very likely faked?
Why do you think that it did not harm the village? Don't you think that he would have been far more verbose and more lobbying for his suspects without it? I'm sure a novice without PR would have been able to save Sareln.
September 20th, 2012, 03:14
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I will leave it at this point, as Novice pointed out far too much virtual ink has been wasted ont his conversation already, and I dont think it was faked anyway, only Tansuke seems to still think that.
Anyway as for harm given the choice would you prefer:
a. 1 day of fully functioning novice
b. 1 day of post restricted novice followed by 1 day of fully functioning novice
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