WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[pindicator]

Since I'm starting to get a little pressure from you (and others), I would like to clarify what I think are two errors in your notes regarding me: In post 329, I said that I thought that Bigger using the word "useless" was an exaggeration, not that questioning Sareln was a "useless exaggeration." In post 340, I said that I was originally going to say "hang" but thought it very unlikely that Bigger was going to hang, so I chose to use the word "pressure" instead. The movement after my vote pushed Bigger very close to hanging (not to say that I didn't help that movement), so "pressure" ended up turning into a very awkward word.

Also, I cannot find posts 416-495 on your google doc.

Day 2 is really the only complete thing on it.
Day 1 has no vote tally.
Night 1 wasn't finished.

Are you able to use the filter commands on it? That was the big draw to moving the info to a spreadsheet for me

[Injera]

Are you able to use the filter commands on it? That was the big draw to moving the info to a spreadsheet for me

I downloaded it and the filters/sorting worked.

[waterbat]

thanks pindi. any chance you are tracking time to go until deadline or timestamp?

[pindicator]

Catwalk, why didn't you follow novice onto Selrahc yesterday?

[pindicator]

thanks pindi. any chance you are tracking time to go until deadline or timestamp?

No, I was not doing that this time around.

[Lewwyn]

ok thanks Brick. Presumably this serdoa kill was an attempt to either protect or frame Ichabod then, and Bigger was just collateral damage.

While I think that's a reasonable assumption, I think killing me would be the better frame job, no? But in the end I don't think you can count on that. I think its simply a waste of time, because in the end Serdoa was a strong villager (when he's not out vigging villagers:neenernee). We saw it last game and this game. As much as I would like to point at the kill and say Ichabod did it to protect himself, I don't believe we can. Best to simply move on and work with what we have or we simply play into wolves hands, IMO.

That said, I'm still suspicious of Ichabod, but I have three people at the top of my list of suspects. One of which is based on yesterday. I'm thinking to start the day by voting for the one who got away, Selrahc. It was so odd how he just slipped into the background, GES style without actually defending or attacking.

Going to lunch, but after I will read up on the Rowain case.

[pindicator]

Catwalk, why didn't you follow novice onto Selrahc yesterday?

Oh wait, you already answered that

[pindicator]

Waterbat, why did you switch off me yesterday?

Your reasoning for switching on me:

Hmmm. Very convincing argument sareln. I was reading your penultimate post and wondering "why isnt he concluding pindicator is scum?"

I can get behind a pIndicator lynch effort.

waterbat for mayor!

And then you don't even mention my name again until the very end of the day:

asdlkjfhasdlkjfh!! back too late!

i had typed up this from an hour or so ago - but so much has happened since then... from a quick overview i was conviced by both sareln and pindicator and have no idea of the tally - I will just not vote as intended in bold below.



ok well, I *really* want to get my vote on a wolf today, but don't have the time before deadline to re-review.

I think we must have several good candidates up - the voting yesterday and earlier today was pretty quick moving. I don't think the mafia had time to plan out what went down and agree we might be giving them too much credit for their actions at the end.

At this point, I think Sareln, Mero, uber, pindicator are all fine places to start. I understand the case against Ichabod from a pure "reads-as-wolf" perspective, but don't understand why we would go there and avoid the events just prior to the deadline.

It does look like a vote on pindicator may have the most effect - just 1.3 hours until deadline.

Also it looks like the mayor vote actually has come to the point where votes matter instead of being a landslide

Llewyn

So what made you change your mind about me?

[Injera]

Hey Pindicator, I'm working through the scraper and your spreadsheet right now, I'm curious why you agreed that TT's post 835 "was horrible".

[Jkaen]

-Another rebounder in Jkaen personally feel that Jkaen has been a lot more clear minded this game. Certainly a departure from last game. I'm hoping its because he feels he did poorly last game and not because he suddenly has a cheat sheet.

The lack of internet really hurt me last game, plus i got too caught up in the meta web. Neither of those should happen this game

I want to know why you voted for me near the deadline, if you had previously changed your mind about me and even defended me (if I can remember correctly).

I had missed the last few hours of conversation (although to be honest I dont think that would have changed things). It was another of those of my options which is the most likely to be scum, even if i don't think that strongly they are scum. Had you as slightly more certain that Sareln (who had a bad voting record day 1, but seemed very helpful day 2) and Pind (who i never really got the case on)

If we are to start anywhere then this is the group we need to look at

Bigger - 8 - Rowain, Lewwyn, Injera, Jkaen, Sareln, Merovech, uberfish, Catwalk

While i think its a negative in their columns, we just mislynched based solely on day 1 misvoting, so lets not put too much weight on a wrong day 1 vote, escpecially given the other 2 options had just claimed power roles

While I think that's a reasonable assumption, I think killing me would be the better frame job, no? But in the end I don't think you can count on that. I think its simply a waste of time, because in the end Serdoa was a strong villager (when he's not out vigging villagers:neenernee). We saw it last game and this game. As much as I would like to point at the kill and say Ichabod did it to protect himself, I don't believe we can. Best to simply move on and work with what we have or we simply play into wolves hands, IMO.

That said, I'm still suspicious of Ichabod, but I have three people at the top of my list of suspects. One of which is based on yesterday. I'm thinking to start the day by voting for the one who got away, Selrahc. It was so odd how he just slipped into the background, GES style without actually defending or attacking.

Going to lunch, but after I will read up on the Rowain case.

Agree with all of this. After Novice who is getting some suspicion, then next most trusted villager seems to have been Serdoa. I think its no more complicated than that.

I also really want to pin down Selrahc still