WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Catwalk]

It would only take one to vouch for him, though. If noone feels his role is plausible, noone would have to step forward. And if Mattimeo is found guilty, D1 will start looking very interesting. I'll drop the idea, but I do think that we would stand to get a lot of information from it and that the potential benefit outweighs the cost.

I don't think Mattimeo's post is pro-village, two others shot the idea down already so it was a safe "offer" to make. And of course it wasn't an offer in the first place.

[Twinkletoes89]

I'm staying more out of this now just because it is irritating reading through it all and I keep seeming to have the opposite opinions to nearly everyone else.

On Pindicator, I just don't see it. I would request that someone could sum up what exactly gets him so high on the list because I'm not digging all the way through. I just don't know with him.

I still don't trust novice, though I do feel a certain sense of paranoia is involved there. I don't like the prospect of having a leader when I will not trust unless they are proven innocent. That's who I am and how I play and I could well be wrong.

I think Mattimeo is lying. I initially believed his claim when it came out as it seemed to ring right, but now I don't think so. Look at blood brothers and look at spy. They both fit within a mafia theme. But does cloaker? I don't think so.

Catwalk is reading better on me today so I'm going to put him away on the back burner for a little while, but he's still a suspect to me.

Molach seems to like voting for me and I think he could be playing the same afk game as a wolf here. IMO I think he would work a lot harder if he was village because then he would look more village to us because we know he's a lurker wolf.

After that, I'm not sure. I think once one of them is lynched I may be able to pull the thread and see where it leads, but I don't know.

And as I didn't say it earlier, apologies Uber - my record on bad reads on people who vocally suspect and vote against me continues!

And for those of you who are voting for me because I haven't contributed this morning. I was up until 5am my time watching NFL Sunday and I decided to treat myself to a lie in until 2pm because I'm a lazy student who will soon be back studying again.

[Twinkletoes89]

Oh so following on from that right now.

unvote

[Jkaen]

Part2

Befoer a short comment as I saw just novices post with the votes: Overdone vote-alyzing was what did cost the village WW14.
Nevertheless to continue: Day 1:
5 hours before lynch thestick is in the lead with 4 votes.
Then the Mattimeo-BW starts to run started by Serdoa (villager) comment he would vote Mattimeo do note that he votes thestick with that post. followed by uberfish(villager) that he would vote Mattimeo over thestick.

Then followed the first real vote: from pindicator then Sareln,Serdoa,uberfish (all 3 vill) and lastly TT.

Now we have 3 possiblities: a) Mattimeo is a fraud and we really had 2 wolves under the 3 topsuspects.
b) Mattimeo is real and pindicator used the comments from uber and Serdoa to make a run to save thestick. His later actions do support that (unvote, thestick, move to Merovech)
c) pindi is a villager but Matt is too are we really to believe that wolves sat on their hands happily lynching thestick? If no then of course TT is a wolf.

So to answer your question novice:
Yes pind is still high on my list: I would also be ok with a Tasunke and TT-lynch. Ichabod and Azza are currently second tier for me. And Mattimeo is a special case.

TT, the above is part of the case against Pind. Basically there are an awful lot of proven village votes on what was assumed to be a save the stick bandwagon

[Mattimeo]

Well, sorry for not sitting here refreshing the WW page with nothing better to do, Catwalk. I posted as soon as I saw your terrible suggestion.

[Tasunke]

I just wonder why the wolves would bus theStick in order to save Mattimeo ... (assuming both r wulves)

if I knew that, then maybe I could see Matty boy being a wolf.

[Tasunke]

also, I have to agree with Novice that Twinkletoes is not really reading wolf right now. I mean, at first I thought he was faking Tasunke-level paranoia/tinfoilhat/ etc ... but now I think that it was very possibly genuine.

And yes, I am leaning towards being open to the possibility of a Matty boy lynch.

[Catwalk]

Well, sorry for not sitting here refreshing the WW page with nothing better to do, Catwalk. I posted as soon as I saw your terrible suggestion.

No need to apologize, you don't have to refresh all the time. I think you did notice though, and whether you did or not I still see it as a safe statement to make. I was addressing Tasunke's statement with this, not criticizing you.

[Twinkletoes89]

Jkaen - using that post I would choose that the theory that Mattimeo is a wolf over Pindicator.

One thing I might just say is that we have a large game here. I don't think its out of the realms of possibility for an almost all villager-driven BW to form. I mean people like Serdoa and Uberfish have some credibility as solid WW players and with a likely nervous village on day one, innocents as well as mafia could flock on to a player as the momentum builds.

[Tasunke]

Just an observation: looks like Mattimeo was the only person that has voted for all three top suspects (or rather, the peeps dat got lynched)