WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Selrahc]

/grudgingly withholds retaliation vote

Tasunke

I think Injera has been filed under "Mislynchable", and making a bit of an effort at it is what Tasunke is doing.

Tasunke's game path to date... he got very committed to the action of lynching Sareln, and then got rather down on himself about it. But that's a path of actions that really makes a lot of sense as a wolf. Turn an early wolf lynch into a mislynch on a "suspiciously voting" player. Then act depressed to lower the amount of expectations on you, and explain fluctuations in behaviour.

Tasunke has posted a lot. I've found him semi-helpful, but also kind of self obsessed. I've not really got the kind of village vibes he normally gives out... or the kind of crazed mania he can often evince.

I'm going to look over his posts in a bit more detail, and that might get me to shift off him again, but I think my suspicion is slightly piqued.

[pindicator]

And Pind: There was a chance to save thestick (strong wolf PR), since he was not voting Bigger yet and some people kept repeating how obvious it was that wolves sat happily at the sidelines, while villager was being lynched. That and the claim of thestick. I'd say it was extremely possible that someone would get cold feet and switch away. So I find pind's switch to Merovech very odd villager move (what's the villager motive for it?), and therefore finding it suspicious. With this in mind, I also find his unvoting of thestick while "checking another person" suspicious. And third, pind posts, thestick claims two minutes after and there is no reaction from pind. It's like he is quietly waiting and looking if people buy the claim or not.

Neither voted Matt either. Selrahc had questioned Matt's claim (mildly IMO). In the end he still voted Qgqq and I think it tells a lot.

You find it extremely possible that someone would get cold feet and switch away and yet find my switching away suspicious?

Okay, let's look at day 1 after Mattimeo claims:

Mattimeo Claims - post 253
254 - Bigger asks waterbat a question that seems more relevant today
255 - Bigger suggests Matt should be able to save him self
256 - Mattimeo votes thestick "to save himself"
257 - injera votes bigger for attacking waterbat
258 - mattimeo talks about his role
259 - meiz pokes at mattimeo while keeping his vote on jkaen
260 - injera tells bigger we shouldn't be discussing matt's role
261 - my post where i unvote
261 - zak wants to follow through on thestick
265 - jkaen votes bigger, asking if he's in 3rd
266 - arromir votes thestick and gives his reasons
267 - merovech talks about the run on mattime
269 - twinkletoes unvotes, saying he believes mattimeo's roleclaim

So what is so special about me again, except for the fact that I'm the easy target?

(Also, the bigger votes by jkaen & injera after mattimeo voted thestick combined with jkaen & injera's reversal on defending me day 2 to attacking me now are the start of my jkaen / injera suspicion. But I could throw you in there too, couldn't i meiz? Not switching your vote in middle of all this but still poking your head up to comment on mattimeo - easy ground work for a defense later on without getting your hands dirty there.)

I bet i could cast dirt on lots of people based on how they voted day 1. But I don't exaclty think that's a good thing to do in this situation. And it's better to get a bigger picture.


@novice - way to quote me out of context! Take a look at the whole paragraph: I'm saying that if anybody were to notice that as me doing this as a trick, I would have thought it would be you.

[pindicator]

@rowain - should i keep fighting or will taking the mislynch for info be better for the village?

[novice]

@novice - way to quote me out of context! Take a look at the whole paragraph: I'm saying that if anybody were to notice that as me doing this as a trick, I would have thought it would be you.

But I did quote that whole paragraph...

So I should have noticed you doing this as a trick, but you didn't do it as a trick? That's your story and you're sticking to it?

[Injera]

Selrahc, is your internet hooked up now?

[pindicator]

But I did quote that whole paragraph...

So I should have noticed you doing this as a trick, but you didn't do it as a trick? That's your story and you're sticking to it?

I'm saying I would have thought you would have seen it as something i had done before, considering we were actively doing it together in ww14. But did i do it this time with the intention of pulling out scum onto me? No. I did it because I got cold feet on thestick's role claim and I thought bigger was village.

[pindicator]

Something just occurred to me.

Mattimeo's day 1 vote was on thestick
Thestick's day 1 vote was on mattimeo

Who says the wolves chose who to lynch?

[pindicator]

No wait, thestick then unvoted. So maybe no dice there.

[pindicator]

Although right before thestick unvoted, the vote count was thestick - 9; bigger - 4; mattimeo - 3

So the writing was on the wall.

[novice]

I'm saying I would have thought you would have seen it as something i had done before, considering we were actively doing it together in ww14. But did i do it this time with the intention of pulling out scum onto me? No. I did it because I got cold feet on thestick's role claim and I thought bigger was village.

OK.

Your day one vote today didn't strike me as a possible scum-fishing gambit and I don't think anyone can claim that it was (and you're not saying it is, either). Therefore I didn't associate it with your previous games either. Also we probably remember ww14 a bit differently, remember I was scum then. To me, your vote switching there was helpful (to me) anti-town play that I was trying to figure out how to mislynch you for. (We were never able to set that up though since there were to many witnesses.) So I don't really associate late vote switches by you with protown play.

After preview: I'm not sure what you're saying with your last three posts, Pindicator?