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Well, objective accusations are difficult to make due to the game circumnstances.
My gripes about you, gaspar:
*Very bad voting record.
*Flailing about me for most of the game, going from a lot of suspicion to not that much.
*your posts on day 6 are bad and out of character. Voting Injera is something I don't agree with (due to meta reasons already presented) and you voted him for meta reasons (bad meta reasons that I'd think you'd know better). Voting for meta reasons is not what I expect from Gaspar.
*Don't like this post:
Gaspar Wrote:On the basis of play, I find Ichabod to have had more scummy posts than Injera, who looked pretty scummy early on but has just looked checked out since then. But unlike say, novice, who has a fairly lengthy pro-town resume, it seems like Injera has been skating a bit since his reveal. I don't have time for a detailed post analysis probably at all this gameday but I feel like the question needs to be asked. If someone who has more time can look into his post-Matt lynch stuff, I think it'd be useful.
Anyway, I'll be mostly mobile from here until late tonight, might be able to gin up something longer then if noone else has before now.
I think the normal thing for you if you were villager would be to find me less suspicious now, since we both suspected Lewwyn and I helped lynching Mattimeo. The fact that you made that "way out" comment about also wanting to vote for me feels bad.
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The more I read your posts, the more I remember of our wolf game together. It's the same thing I was accused of in the beggining of the game. There's content formally, but materially, not so much (not sure if this makes sense in english).
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So you suspect Gaspar because he suspects you? Or rather, if he didn't suspect you, then you'd consider him more village-inclined?
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Meiz
I tried to post this 3 times this morning but it kept disappearing, so I'll post the summarised version.
Seems weird Meiz would be PR'd, my guess is it's a wolf plot to make him look village. Hasn't set the world on fire with his voting record either.
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Unofficial Votecount
Selrahc - 4 - Meiz, novice, Molach, Waterbat
Injera - 3 - Gaspar, Twinkletoes89, tasunke
Gaspar - 3 - Selrahc, Ichabod, Injera
Azza - 1 - Catwalk
Ichabod - 1 - Lewwyn
Jkaen - 1 - Pindicator
Meiz - 1 - Azza
Players not voting: Jkaen
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Ichabod Wrote:*Very bad voting record.
Not much I can say about this. My voting record has been less than stellar. I don't have any regrets about the days my access didn't let me be around for the vote shifts. I feel lousy about the Rowain lynch because I cast the deciding vote there before others piled on, even though it worked out well for us.
Ichabod Wrote:*Flailing about me for most of the game, going from a lot of suspicion to not that much.
Eh, I guess I've flailed a bit. My main supposition at this point is that one of, but probably no more than one of, you, Lewwyn or novice are scum. I find myself agreeing with you quite a bit as the game went on, which I don't trust. But I can talk myself into any of the 3 of you.
Ichabod Wrote:*your posts on day 6 are bad and out of character. Voting Injera is something I don't agree with (due to meta reasons already presented) and you voted him for meta reasons (bad meta reasons that I'd think you'd know better). Voting for meta reasons is not what I expect from Gaspar.
Eh, like I said, I haven't found the smoking gun I wanted to so I decided to try something. I think most of the Injera defense so far is that "Gaspar, you never agree with this stuff." And I don't. But the last few games the wolves have played a lot more gambits, and I'm not getting great scumtells this game. So it makes me more suspicious. I am a strong proponent of the "Why is so and so alive" defense and I currently can't quite figure out why the scum would target Rowain over Injera, that's my vote.
Anyway, I'm doing the best I can but I'm busier than I've been typically during these games. If that makes my content feel less meaty, its probably because it has been. Sorry.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
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Anyway, I like Injera's defense less than I liked my own case against him - angry is an easy emotion when you're scum because you're angry you could be caught.
The main points were attacking things like how "mislynchable" the scum would consider him - I highly doubt TT suspecting someone overnight is making the scum jump. I'm keeping an open mind, but I just hear an angry version of the default defense.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
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Gaspar Wrote:Anyway, I like Gaspar's defense less than I liked my own case against him - angry is an easy emotion when you're scum because you're angry you could be caught.
Or maybe I'm an honest villager feeling frustrated? It's like your "skating" charge, which any number of players have done this game, you can basically cherry-pick to read it as wolfish. I mean, any sort of emotion I presented you could probably swing around to be a wolf tell.
Gaspar Wrote:The main points were attacking things like how "mislynchable" the scum would consider him - I highly doubt TT suspecting someone overnight is making the scum jump. I'm keeping an open mind, but I just hear an angry version of the default defense.
Default defense, eh? What's that? Like the anger thing above, it's a lazy accusation. You're taking one point- wolves didn't eat me- and then just fitting a case around it.
As to your point- they might have viewed what TT said as an opportunity, and Catwalk and at least someone else was suspicious of me the night before. And of course, not lynching me opens up line of argument you're taking here. Maybe they talked it over and decided that the risk of letting me live another night was worth taking a shot at getting me mislynched, and they felt they could second-guess me. Maybe they felt Rowain as a villager would be more dangerous to them than me with my ability for the night. Hell, maybe I'm a fool and they realized that. I don't know why the wolves didn't eat me because I'm not a wolf. I jumped to the top of the vote chart, though, so maybe you're misinterpreting just how mislynchable I am.
Also, are you simply disregarding the various meta aspect of my role as well?
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Did Jkaen disappear?
I'll stick with Selrahc.
I have to run.
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Sorry guys just read the last page and the lynch results, nothing else.
Missed 1 day because its the weekend, then had my cat attack my eye. Should heal but it hurts to look at a computer screen for too long right now, so I will effectively be reduced to lurking status and wont be putting arguments forward and wont be up to date on the thread, sorry all.
To save the modkill, based on 3 days old information, I will go Selrahc out of the seemingly available options
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Azza Wrote:Seems weird Meiz would be PR'd, my guess is it's a wolf plot to make him look village. Hasn't set the world on fire with his voting record either. Azza, explain the last part in detail (and I don't want anyone else answering this for him). (and I'm not saying my voting record is flawless)
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