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WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

Gonna pull back at the 10 min mark. So I have this typed up and ready to go:

I had a theory today, catwalk. I was thinking, why are you so adamant about azza? Everytime someone shows you a town tell by azza you brush it aside like you know better. And how come you were so adamant and persistent about mattimeo? I can't remember you being like this in previous games, so sure of yourself, so confident that you'll brush aside everybody who contradicts you. And also: you give the benefit of the doubt to every other person with suspicion but Azza - why is that?

If you are scum, then you've been playing a ballsy game - between playing with meiz's PR to being on mattimeo right from the beginning. I started to wonder maybe you're giving up fellow scum to get deep cover. It's not like you're gaining a lot of traction on these, so you figure once people eventually come around then you get a ton of credit for being the first person on them.

I like my theory; it's a neat theory, it looks pretty, and it gives me a warm feeling. But it's also very improbable. That's a problem with this game: people fall in love with their own theories and hold on to them despite the evidence just based they would rather be right than catch scum. I'm not trying to pass blame here; I do it too. It's human nature.

So I think the more probable explanation is you got lucky with mattimeo and are feeling pretty good about yourself, and now you're convinced you've struck gold here again and we're just not seeing it because you have it all figured out.

Sorry catwalk, I think molach is the better target. He plays just like he did in WW14 - he had lots of good reasons for being gone that game, too. I did want to see if we'd get any movement, and I am curious as to what that means. molach
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Anyway, from the two avaiable...

Azza
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pindicator Wrote:I had a theory today, catwalk. I was thinking, why are you so adamant about azza? Everytime someone shows you a town tell by azza you brush it aside like you know better.
I don't think any good town tells have been shown, though. As novice says above, it's gut feeling. A single post defending Tasunke has been put forth, that's been brushed aside by others than me. I'm really not seeing the town tells, sorry if that makes me seem dismissive.
Quote:And how come you were so adamant and persistent about mattimeo?
I don't think this is quite accurate. I pursued him, but I don't recall being adamant at any point.
Quote:I can't remember you being like this in previous games, so sure of yourself, so confident that you'll brush aside everybody who contradicts you.
I recall several memorable bouts with Lewwyn where we were both villagers and wanted each other dead something fierce.
Quote:And also: you give the benefit of the doubt to every other person with suspicion but Azza - why is that?
I think I have a strong case on him, and I think he's being defended. As for Molach, I told you why I want to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think he's been voted up too easily.
Quote:It's not like you're gaining a lot of traction on these, so you figure once people eventually come around then you get a ton of credit for being the first person on them.
I am, though. Azza came extremely close to hanging yesterday, and he's close today too.

Which town tells are you seeing on him? The scum tells on Molach can be attributed to him being busy with work and kids (it's certainly possible he's scum, but I don't doubt for a second he's honest about RL situations). What can the scum tells on Azza be attributed to? I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt because I don't see a reason to. He hasn't given an explanation for the scum tells, Molach has.

Not too late to change your mind pindicator. Offer still stands, blame is on me if he flips villager.
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Unofficial Lynch Vote Count

Molach - 6 - novice, Lewwyn, Waterbat, Azza, Gaspar, Pindicator
Azza - 4 - Meiz, Catwalk, Molach, Ichabod
Gaspar - 1 - Selrahc
novice - 1 - Jkaen
Meiz - 1 - Twinkletoes89

Players not voting: None
I have to run.
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I'm tempted to swap to Azza just to make Ichabod feel uncomfortable with my apparent Leprosy.
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I'm trepidatious about both of today's wagons. I think on reflection I'd go Molach. But I'm not going to.
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Molach has pushed me most of the game, in quite a low key way. I can't really trust myself not to let that colour my preconceptions, and I don't want to be one of those people who gets shirty about somebody suspecting them.(Although at this point, I would need a very large shirt)
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Selrahc, please at least go for one of them. If you're villager, giving up your vote is anti-town.
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Deadline already passed
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Ah, forgot the time being off. Hoping Molach flips scum, even if I think it's a poor decision.
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