WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[waterbat]

immediate thoughts:

there is something in the catwalk - pindicator tiff right at the deadline.

it just seems off. sets my paranoia bells off, if you will. Would not be surprised at all if game ended right now, pindicator *and* catwalk showed up mafia. I know this isn't a big case or anything, but just how i felt upon reading that short exchange.

this kind of capped it off:

Hoping Molach flips scum, even if I think it's a poor decision.

you felt the need to explicitly tell us that, catwalk? I suppose there would be some in this group that would rather be right than advance the cause of the village (novice's calling out of TT recently comes to mind).......

anyway - its night - im ok with it being a quiet one

[waterbat]

oh - ill cut the new scraper pages off at post 3200 (page 320 for default)

give me a few minutes

[Catwalk]

Thanks for the summary novice. A few basic observations:
1) Both Molach and Mattimeo were on Sareln on D2. pindicator and Ichabod were both at great risk of hanging.
2) Molach helped bus Mattimeo in a tight race on D4.
3) Molach didn't seem to care whether Meiz, Azza or Tasunke hung on D6, or whether I or Merovech hung on D3.
4) Both Mattimeo and Molach were on thestick on D1. It looks increasingly like he was very deliberately bussed, the pattern and timing should be looked at more closely.

[Catwalk]

you felt the need to explicitly tell us that, catwalk?

That's just how I felt? I thought it was the wrong decision, and of course I hoped he'd flip scum.

On an unrelated note, it would not surprise me if Molach was bussed. His inactivity seemed genuine, making him a poor scum asset and one that was under a lot of suspicion.

[waterbat]

The second place in lynch votes the days we lynched a villager:

pindicator
catwalk
pindicator
meiz

I'd think naturally mafia would put votes on other mafia on those days

[Catwalk]

I think that's a stretch waterbat. Two villagers on the block means no risk for the mafia. Merovech hung with a 9-7 lead, and I looked certain to hang until he imploded.

[pindicator]

@waterbat - you call that a tiff? I had one post where I laid out why I thought catwalk was suffering from confirmation bias and why I joined him on Azza for a bit. He had one post responding to me, but I don't see where I upset him or where we got in a tiff.

And what do you mean with your last post? Are you saying you think catwalk, meiz, & i are villagers and mafia would have their votes elsewhere? That's quite the change from accusing catwalk & i as both being scum just a few minutes earlier

[waterbat]

it just read very odd - that's all. tiff <shrug> maybe too strong a word.

what i was saying about the second place votes - is that if a villager was up on the block, it would be natural to put a useless vote on a fellow wolf. it accomplishes 2 things 1) distance from the lynch and 2) distance from fellow wolf when that wolf turns up dead.

again - really it was minor thing.

@catwalk: yeah - i remember saying i can't imagine you being mafia after that results and how it shook out. I haven't forgotten - but not dropping my guard entirely to the possibility.

[Azza]

Hooray, I'm not dead. And good call novice on starting the Molach wagon.

[Lewwyn]

Yes!

BOOYA!

Huzzah!

Hey what is this! Both of these are MY catchphrases!