Diablo and Beyond

[FoxBat]

All I mean is that trying directly to compete with the likes of GuildWiki would be dense. It wouldn't come close to working, and members efforts here would be better spent contributing to that wiki so everyone can get all the reference info in one place.

Variant reports often involve strategy, but something like Lemming's Variant Archive are their own entity really. It also isn't always going to attract the same crowd who just wants to read mini-max guides to make things as easy as possible.

[Zed-F]

One solution is just to add our own variant section on the global wiki. Probably nobody will pay attention much and will let us put up whatever content we want anyway.

[Brackard]

If we made you feel this way then we have failed you. True, some of us can get a little geeky at times but even then we only want to share information, to stimulate discussion and share ideas. Everyone can and do contribute to that effort, no matter how insignificant or irrelevant they think what they have to say may be.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't still be around if I didn't feel wanted/needed. The community here seems to enjoy a well-written report about a struggling average game as much as (if not more than) a perfectly played game on impossible. This is one reason I'm not going anywhere. (watch for the upcoming MOO reports). I love the discussion and geekiness - even if my level of geenkiness never reaches that level.

The point I was making was rather a time factor. I can probably count on one hand the numbrer of characters I've brought into hell level of D2. Not because I'm not good at it, or that I dont' enjoy, rather I simply didn't (don') have the time to play as much as I'd like. Outside of a report of a vanilla character, there simply wouldn't be THAT much I could have brought via the Diablo scene (which, if well-written if a venture worth pursuing in and of itself for the entertainment factor).

[WarBlade]

One solution is just to add our own variant section on the global wiki. Probably nobody will pay attention much and will let us put up whatever content we want anyway.

I'll assume you're adding to what FoxBat said and referring to the official Guild Wars Wiki when I reply with: They do pay attention and you wouldn't be able to post a variant section where you'd want it. You could put one in the User namespace under your own user name, but that would be buried so far off the radar that very few people would ever go and look at it. AKA Realms Beyond Futile Efforts.

The best way to go about it would be the RB wiki idea. Then we could do things the way we want to do them, unfettered by a global policy that doesn't really suit us. Then we could link to it from places like Realms Beyond and Realms Beyond (GWW).

[KingOfPain]

Oh Carp. That was a *looong* time ago. Where do you dig this, erm, *stuff* up from?

You should be scared It is no secret I have archived the Asylum forum before it's completely killed off by spam. Woody had set the max to 50 pages so new posts erase old posts.

I guess it is time to start a D4 Guild. Because, you know, now that D3 has been announced, it is no longer cool or cutting edge.

Start planning, but not for D4. Now I am just worry we would be caught with our pants/Depends down when The End of The Universe comes around in 2040. If we are not dead by then Wouldn't it be something if all the surviving RBDers whip out their Classic Diablo and have an Ironman competition!?

KoP

[FoxBat]

Since there's yet more confusion, I literally meant don't directly compete with a wiki. Wikis are full of objective reference info and that's it. Even the "strategy guides" AKA builds got ported off to a seperate site PvXWiki, and you can see the questionable results there of a few decent builds buried in a million bad ones. Public wikis are vastly superior for unarguable extensive reference info due to the sheer size and number of contributors, but inferior for letting the "unwashed masses" vote on what is "good strategy." Let alone their complete disinterest in variants and how much vandalism you'd get as a result.

I'm just suggesting that, in adopting wiki software, we'd have to use it primarily for what distinguished us in the first place. A variant reference organized along the line of Lemming's Archive, which anyone could contribute to for example, would be a unique product. Drop percent tables and skill descriptions likely wouldn't be.

[Griselda]

I hear that you're likely to encounter a lot of black deaths if you're playing IM in 2040.

[KingOfPain]

All I mean is that trying directly to compete with the likes of GuildWiki would be dense.

Agreed, if we are talking about Guildwars. What made GuildWiki such a success is that wikis were not mainstream in that everymothersson has a wiki up, they were first in GW, and there were no competition. Now 2008, practically every fansite has a wiki up.

and members efforts here would be better spent contributing to that wiki so everyone can get all the reference info in one place.

If we are talking about D3, the question is which wiki is that wiki? It's not about competing with other sites for traffic and advertising money. We do because we do. It's too early to cross that (having our own comprehensive D3 wiki) option off. The effort spent on RBD3wiki would not be wasted effort; how hard is copy and paste?

One solution is just to add our own variant section on the global wiki. Probably nobody will pay attention much and will let us put up whatever content we want anyway.

I have posted such an offer in one of the top HGL site last year. I brought their subforum to a halt (no reply, no new post) for 2 days. They didn't know what to do with it... no one posted until some newb broke the silence with a different topic.

Besides, with 20/20 hindsight, that was a BAD idea. We can try and spread our gospel but we should not install a variant listing on any wiki we don't have control of. Can you imagine having to contend with the 1001 IUseWhirlWindOnlyBabaVariant or the like

KoP

[Cyrene]

You should be scared It is no secret I have archived the Asylum forum before it's completely killed off by spam. Woody had set the max to 50 pages so new posts erase old posts.
KoP

Are you sure you aren't a white dog polymath with a bow tie and horn-rimmed glasses and a WABAC machine?

Start planning, but not for D4. Now I am just worry we would be caught with our pants/Depends down when The End of The Universe comes around in 2040. If we are not dead by then Wouldn't it be something if all the surviving RBDers whip out their Classic Diablo and have an Ironman competition!?

KoP

I thought that was 2012. Darn. That's what I get for watching the Hitler Channel.

Oh well, I'll meet you all after end times at Milliways for drinks and dinner .

--Cy

******We're all Hoopy Froods who know where their towel is, right?

[WarBlade]

Have towel, will travel.