WW 19 Game Thread - Mobster Mayhem - GAME OVER

[MJW (ya that one)]

Selrahc was lynched. He was a Snitch. He was holding the Black Cloak.

Can you do a write up?

[BRickAstley]

Selrahc was lynched. He was a Snitch. He was holding the Black Cloak.

Can you do a write up?

I just don't have the time right now, I'm about to leave my computer for the next 6 hours. I'll try to get one up tonight after that.

[Serdoa]

If I am allowed to add: Told ya, since Day 1

Anyhow, we are all (villagers) a little dense. Rowain hinted at Bigger already before he died, Selrahcs stunt to start a meta-discussion on the gun use, 10 minutes before lynch was certainly lynchworthy and Merovech also wrote two posts that could have told us his alignment.

Also to note (and most importantly for us right now): Q's switch to Rowain. Lynchworthy? I think so, but I'll have to go through all his posts and knowing I am dead after this night, I can't get my lazy ass to do that.

[waterbat]

awesome! great job guys for following through on it. often the person who starts the day as the lynch candidate doesnt end it that way

selrahc certainly didnt leave much to analyze.... more telling will be people's posts on him.

[zakalwe]

This is a bit random but you can get night-killed by the vig people! If you have a power-item or something that clears you -- you may want to role claim early to avoid getting vigged if you think you are in danger.

Great point. Lets tell scum where all the power items are. May get night killed, but at least you won't be vig shot!

Only when you are in serious danger of being vigged. i.e. your zak.

I'm not going to make any claims tonight. Don't shoot me, though. Better to lynch me if you think I'm guilty. Shoot one of the lurkers, IMO.

This is just not good for your ego, Serdoa. :P

[pindicator]

Zak- does that mean you think selrahc was bussed? IIRC the lurkers all voted Selrahc

Well, i agree with looking into the lurkers a bit. I think i want to dig through uberfish's posts. I'm not a fan of how he's done some of his late-day vote changes on days 1 & 2. Serdoa's right, I need to look elsewhere than just zak.

[waterbat]

why would selrahc risk lying about his cloak results? he could have claimed cloak and gave his true results. have to think he would scan someone he hoped would receive an item. i.e. if he saw me visit X - he would know X has the can right now.

[uberfish]

Item meta

Aka: the post scum didn't want to see!

We started with 12 items / 17 players

17 players means almost certainly 4 scum, and the item ratio very strongly suggests that 3 out of the 4 scum would have started with items; the two known scum items are standard and fairly balanced roles.

The following items were eliminated: jailer, watcher, bulletproof vest, 1-shot mystery box day vig

We know the vest, jailer and day vig can't have been passed on, and the chances of anyone from village having given selrahc the watcher are negligible

we now have 8 items / 10 players

This means of the two players who didn't start with items and are still alive, it's very probable that EXACTLY one of them is scum

I think we should claim who *started* with an item and who didn't (without necessarily claiming the item itself) at the beginning of day 4. This will give us a lot of information, without revealing the current holder of the seer or vigilante to the scum.

I normally wouldn't nightpost this, but I have to bring this up now so we can get agreement on it to act at the beginning of day.

Whoever is currently holding the gun, you should consider not shooting tonight, because you'll likely cost us one day if you're wrong and there's a risk of the gun being bounced to scum on the next nightphase.

[waterbat]

and if 9/10 people claim to have started with an item? it might help later catch someone in a lie, but not sure it will be useful right away.

[uberfish]

and if 9/10 people claim to have started with an item? it might help later catch someone in a lie, but not sure it will be useful right away.

Then the 10th person who didn't claim an item is confirmed town, and whichever scum lied about having the item has to lie again if/when we full claim.

Selrahc probably watched someone else on night 2 trying to catch PRs and lied about watching serdoa because watching serdoa was the obvious town action.