[SPOILERS] Tatan, CFCJester and Nakor try their hand at Mansu of India...

[Nakor]

Moved Dora and ended turn.

T80 saw someone build Colossus (should be Serdoa, looking at CivStats).
Offered Serdoa the clams - crabs deal, let's buddy up to him.

Moved Dora again and found more Space borders:



Not sure how much we can scout there. There are islands west to scout or we could scout towards clam islands and have the WB ready there for when we settle the city.

Didn't do any micro, since Jester knows the moves best.

[UnforcedError]

Nice move from Serdoa getting MC and Colossus.

Yes, I think Dora is best off taking a look at clam island.

[Nakor]

Nice move from Serdoa getting MC and Colossus.

Yes, I think Dora is best off taking a look at clam island.

We might be able to scout a bit more to the west before going to clam island, depends on when clam island will be settled.

[CFCJesterFool]

It looks like there is a direct path from Space's cultural borders so we need to be careful. It might be a good idea to scout out the island between us and Space. We haven't seen Serdoa's WB for some time. Maybe he was able to go east past Space?

I checked espionage again and our ratio with Serdoa is holding steady at 20/36. Our ratio with Space is 23/24 which implies Space has met someone else besides Serdoa. He could conceivably do 3/1 weighting but I have a hunch that is not the case. We know where Colossus was built..

Serdoa will most likely get a GProphet or GMerchant pretty soon (before we get a GM). If he gets a GP he would only need Polytheism+Monotheism (which he might already have) to bulb Theology. Looks like the AP will be Christian unless Serdoa gets a GM, in which case he needs Math to bulb Currency. Yeah, cozying up to Serdoa probably a good idea. The T81 demos..

[UnforcedError]

We might be able to scout a bit more to the west before going to clam island, depends on when clam island will be settled.

Yes, that's what I meant too, I was just a bit vague...

It looks like there is a direct path from Space's cultural borders so we need to be careful.

Well spotted I haven't even realized that.

[Nakor]

We're last to play, so I decided not to wait for Jester and make the suggested moves.

Research to Priesthood, science at 0% for 1 turn
Worker 1 chopped forest.
Whipped Missionary in SM.

The WB couldn't move further east, so has to move south first.
Unless.... Serdoa declared war on us to get his WB past our lands, we could do the same to Space.

Ended turn.

[Nakor]

Looking at the new turn, I think we can better let the Settler in FoF finish manually in 2T.
If we 2-pop whip it now, we loose 2 mines and won't regain those in 2T and we get unhappiness.
We could, however, 2-pop whip the Settler in CG to get a settler done next turn.

[UnforcedError]

Wasn't the settler meant to be whipped into the library? Or something else?

[CFCJesterFool]

Looking at the new turn, I think we can better let the Settler in FoF finish manually in 2T.
If we 2-pop whip it now, we loose 2 mines and won't regain those in 2T and we get unhappiness.
We could, however, 2-pop whip the Settler in CG to get a settler done next turn.

We don't lose two mines (only one and we get that back the following turn) and we get 43h OF into a library like so...

No way 43h < 1F3H. Actually, it would be more since we can grow onto the cottage (and then wouldn't lose any mines). I agree on 2 pop whipping the settler from CG (45h OF into temple). Tweaking the micro right now. You still get to make the call on whipping FoF but I think the results speak for themselves.

[CFCJesterFool]

LOL! Wanted to make sure the sim still matched the live save and yes we accepted peace from Serdoa. Haven't played the turn (we have 14 hours left) but I'll have some adjusted micro in ~1 hour (want to get some coffee).