Epic 24 - Fenton lasts until 1200AD...

[Fenton Denton Smith]

I didn't manage to find the ludricus amount of time this one took to complete, mainly due to several work trips and some computer troubles. I decided to shelve it when it was mid Feb and I knew I wouldn't get close to the end.

For comparason purposes I thought I'd post a few shots as I noticed after reading some other reports that I did do a few things differently.

My start was fairly standard - settled in the place - worker - farms and mines - pump a settler at size 3.

My initial warrior ran west and found Sally and a really nice site for a city with floodplains and hills - pigs were present too. My first settler went that way escorted by Mr warrior and New York was founded.

Here is a shot of New York - this is also when Sally declared war on me - 100AD - i had a very slow expansion!!!



I then embarked on a massive war campain. My aim here was to destroy Sally in one go! He had just got cats but I had none. The thing was though - New York had copper and Boston had horses so i pumped chariots and axes. Axes got cover promotion where possible as Sally generally had 1 Archer and multiple axes in defence of his cities. Suicide axe got rid of archer and then the chariots ran riot with the axes! It was really easy to take his first few cites in his core. There were a few hairy situations though:



Somehow I managed to let an arabian sword through to Boston which was defended by 1 warrior... Boston was a military pump most of the game and had a GG settled and the HE... Fortunatly i had an axe on its way to the front line just to the west that saved the day!

Sally was wiped out in 1230AD after no peace declarations at all! The war lasted 1130 years and was to the death!

Here is an overview when I stopped playing shortly after destroying Sally:



Here was the tech situation:


By mr_denton_smith at 2009-03-20

So the question is: Would the early elimination of BE have amade a difference? I noticed a lot of people waited before gaining a BE.

The next phase of the game was to land grab. I had a plan to crash the economy, run more specialists and pump settlers. I was also keen to find the other island(s) to open up some more tech trading oportunities.

Its a shame I didn't finish!

I was surprised to see so much nuclear war in the modern era of other peoples games - can you not build the UN with diplo disabled? My plan was to do this and then veto nuclear war...

Thanks to the sponsor!

[T-hawk]

So the question is: Would the early elimination of BE have amade a difference? I noticed a lot of people waited before gaining a BE.

It's 5% extra score for eliminating BE early (above the 5% for doing it in the industrial era.) But while you were doing that, you may have lost out on more than 5% worth of land grab against Babylon and Native America.

I was surprised to see so much nuclear war in the modern era of other peoples games - can you not build the UN with diplo disabled? My plan was to do this and then veto nuclear war...

Correct, no UN so no nuke ban. Perhaps the implementation of turning off diplomatic victory is a bit heavy-handed, and maybe the UN should still exist just without the victory option. I definitely didn't miss the Apostolic Palace annoyance at all, though.

Thanks for the report!

[Olodune]

Correct, no UN so no nuke ban. Perhaps the implementation of turning off diplomatic victory is a bit heavy-handed, and maybe the UN should still exist just without the victory option. I definitely didn't miss the Apostolic Palace annoyance at all, though.

I didn't figure this out until I was in the early ADs wondering what ever happened to the AP. The late game without a nuke ban has a distinct Cold War vibe (especially with the scoring penalties associated with actually engaging in Dr. Strangelove's wet dreams).

[Fenton Denton Smith]

I didn't figure this out until I was in the early ADs wondering what ever happened to the AP. The late game without a nuke ban has a distinct Cold War vibe (especially with the scoring penalties associated with actually engaging in Dr. Strangelove's wet dreams).

ha ha - yes - one of the first votes i go for if i'm UN secretary is the ban of Nukes. I really dislike using them or being hit by them!!! I think it is because you spend all that time building up an empire, nuturing it, carefully placing farms and towns etc. then some bozo comes alongs and in 1 minute, hours of your work is destroyed. It's like a carefully crafted game of snooker being destroyed by someone throwing a medicine ball on the table!

Sorry - little rant about how i don't like nukes much! I'm better now.