RB PBEM #1 - Gandhi [spoilers]

[Ruff_Hi]

and my reply ...

Dreylin,

Gees - I said ask and I would answer .. but, so many questions.

1) yes - way to lawyerly ... but ok re NAP. Suggest that the 'I hate this NAP' statement include a 'but will not attack until my turn X' which means that you will not wake up on turn X to find that I have taken all of your cities. That will occur on turn X+1 (as you play after me). You can say the same but you should say 'will not attack until my turn Y' and the first time I see you attacking is Y+1 (ie the results of your attack on Y).

Is that what you said below?

To be honest, if one of us gets the NAP wrong by 1 turn, then I will not be sweating it. It is close enough to an 'honest' attack - if you know what I mean.

2) 15 turns on quick is enough for 3 techs and a bunch of units. It is actually a bit too long.

3) Agreed

4) Sooooo and I have a 'no harmful spy missions' clause. You ok with that?

Ruff

hee hee - no harmful spy missions

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reply from Dreylin ...

Ruff,

1) I like the addition of the "I will not attack until X" and think it
covers the whole yadda yadda from my previous message! 8-)

2) Would you agree that 10t would be more appropriate?

4) Agreed

#4 - mwah!!! Not that I see myself stealing techs from Dreylin. I expect sooooo to tech better and driver harder bargains than Dreylin. If sooooo bargains too hard, then I will revert to stealing some tech.

My reply ...

Dreylin,

NO. I will not agree to 10 turns cooling off. I don't want to fight you so I don't want to give you a reason to fight me. I don't want to fight soooo either if it comes to that but I can see that happening in the future. I suppose I am (oh so slowly) feeling out the Ottoman empire regarding longer term plans vis-a-vie India. Now don't get in front of your self - as Clint Eastwood says in Heart Break Ridge, "we an't jumping into bed together". I suppose we are just seeing how this friendship develops

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and another email from Dreylin ...

Ruff,

Fair enough; I'm pretty sure I didn't want it to be just 10t either,
but I did want to ask the question...

NAP between India & Ottoman Empire commencing t43.
Indefinite until cancelled; upon notification of cancellation, a 15t
cooling-off period will commence.
15t minimum before notification of cancellation can be sent.
Open Borders to remain in effect for the duration of NAP & cooling-off
period unless mutual agreement is reached to cancel.
Offensive Spy action is forbidden during NAP & cooling-off period.

reply ...

Yeah - ok. Guess you are just summarizing for fun. Noticed you changed it to no 'offensive' spy actions. Not sure what the difference between that and 'no harmful' spy actions is - but ok.

Hmm - maybe he can see the possibility of me stealing tech. But no mention of any future friendship. I guess an Indefinite NAP between India & Ottoman Empire is a pretty good start. Will have to wait and see.

[kalin]

Hi,

I realized I haven't yet posted in your thread yet, and I wanted to let you know that I follow it with interest. Also, since I posted in Dreylin's thread and you guys have a thread count competition I didn't want to give him unfair advantage

I was wondering what are your longer term plans now that you got treaties with your most immediate neighbors.

Thanks for all the detailed updates, pictures and thoughts.

K

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I was wondering what are your longer term plans now that you got treaties with your most immediate neighbors.

Well ...

• all of those plans and pics to get a settler to block sooooo are off the table
  
• worker near FF will continue mining that hill, forest into library at LQ
  
• library build continue at capital, settler to be whipped out of growth I get while building library - a little 2 for 1 that the demo game taught me
  
• next settler will go on the spot that we agreed so that I can start pumping culture into those tiles
  
• I will not be hooking up FF to LQ so that I can build cheap warriors out of LQ
• The chariot under construction at LQ will cover the worker roading to DV
  
• next unit out of LQ (chariot) will go barb hunting to unlock Heroic Epic and reveal fogged tiles in extreme SE
  
• get my cities up and running
  
• tech trade like crazy
  
• get a Great Spy and think about bombing sooooo
• if I get a GP ... probably lightbulb theology as suggested by Dreylin
  
• great scientist out of LQ for capital (or LQ depending on how that city is going)
  

Is that enough?

[kalin]

Is that enough?

Yes

For HE you'll need Aestetics of course. Any plans for those wonders?

K

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FF - library (3?)
LQ - finishes chariot
N Worker - mining
S Worker - Cottage on FP
Scouts - making their way to DV

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email to Dreylin ...

Dreylin,

Just touching base re techs ... Here is my understanding of our agreed trades.

I trade you Maths (221) for Meditation (70), Priesthood (52) and Monotheism (105) [total of 227]
I trade you Sailing for Poly

You already have all of these techs, so what are you currently researching? After maths, I am thinking of Calendar (309 beakers).

Ruff

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FF - library (1)
LQ - granary
N Worker - mining
S Worker - Cottage on FP
Scouts - making their way to DV
Chariot - heading W to kill barbs, cover future workers roading towards DV

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FF - library completed, settler next
LQ - granary (3)
N Worker - mining
S Worker - Cottage on FP
Scouts - making their way to DV
Chariot - heading W to kill barbs, cover future workers roading towards DV - first target in sight
Tech - Maths (5)