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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

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April 22nd, 2013, 22:28
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(April 22nd, 2013, 20:43)fluffyflyingpig Wrote: Are any of the German cities we plan on taking already Buddhist?

Anyone have an answer for this?
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April 22nd, 2013, 22:41
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I just looked back through the last couple pages of posts in the turn tracking thread looking for religion in German cities and saw none, but that's hardly a thorough review. Can someone who can log into the game give us a zoomed out view of religion spreads, particularly Buddhism in reference to this current thread of conversation?

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April 22nd, 2013, 22:45
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Hey I'm here. Drafting something now, so if you're near a computer, stick around for a few minutes to comment on the draft so we can get it out the door quickly. I Strongly agree with the "don't let them spread, tell them as much, close borders if they move in without an agreement" camp.
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April 22nd, 2013, 22:50
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(April 22nd, 2013, 22:45)scooter Wrote: Hey I'm here. Drafting something now, so if you're near a computer, stick around for a few minutes to comment on the draft so we can get it out the door quickly. I Strongly agree with the "don't let them spread, tell them as much, close borders if they move in without an agreement" camp.

Sorry to pick on your post in particular, scooter. I think several people still are not grasping that they can move into our borders and spread religion on the same turn.
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#2,825
April 22nd, 2013, 22:51
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Draft to CivPlayers Wrote:Decebal,

Hey, wanted to check with you on something. We see a Buddhist missionary of yours walking up to our borders - it appears it's going to enter our lands next turn to try to spread the religion. We would like to ask that you don't spread it into our cities. We agreed to your request to not scout each other's lands with our OB agreement, and a missionary entering borders would be a violation of that. Also, we'd prefer not to get the religion spread into cities of ours that have no religion, as it removes our chance of our own religion spreading for free smile. So yeah, we'd just ask that you use the missionary on someone else if you don't mind.

Thanks!
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I left out the AP part for now as I didn't want to pile on too hard. Thoughts? Goal is to send this extremely quickly (less than an hour), so if you are online with any sort of opinion, please share it. I typed thish quickly so there's a solid chance I wrote something dumb in here. lol
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#2,826
April 22nd, 2013, 23:00
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Don't seem to be anything off on first glance. How much time is left before turn rolls? If there is no response until then, we'll have to close the border pre-emptively.
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#2,827
April 22nd, 2013, 23:13
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Oh hey, good point, let's emphasise that we're holding out for a free spread of our own, and that their spread into our city jeopardises it. Give them a concrete reason why we think their actions harm us, and I'm sure they'll understand!
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April 22nd, 2013, 23:16
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(April 22nd, 2013, 23:13)Nicolae Carpathia Wrote: Oh hey, good point, let's emphasise that we're holding out for a free spread of our own, and that their spread into our city jeopardises it. Give them a concrete reason why we think their actions harm us, and I'm sure they'll understand!

The sarcasm is overwhelming here, but I don't understand why.
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#2,829
April 22nd, 2013, 23:23
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My natural tone of writing I guess. I'm being earnest! Say that we really don't want them screwing over our chances for a natural Hindu spread, and I'm sure they'll understand where we're coming from.
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April 22nd, 2013, 23:54
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The above draft was sent as-is.
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