Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[fluffyflyingpig]

Along with OB messages, I'd like to send diplo to three teams that have yet to vote on Plako as game adminstrator. So far there's been unanimous approval, with these holdouts:

WPC
Civplayers
CFC

I like the suggestion in the rant thread to ask WPC and CP first, leaving CFC as the lon holdout, and then put pressure on them publicly. Plako said there's at least one team against his selection as admin, and we're pretty sure it's CFC... but seeing how now one else was nominated we can push them hard on this.

We *need* this done before the real wars start. WPC should be easy, I hope, and we can bundle the OB request with this to be efficient and seem more partnery.

Echoing Ceil.

We need the timer fixed before the next wars. The WPC note must include a vote reminder.

[kjn]

Turn rolled, and CivPlayers accepted OBs with us.

Another thing to add to the trades: CivFr sends incense (their only source, too) to CivPlayers for pigs. Definitely a health crunch for them in their capital. It also makes CivFr more dependant on keeping good relations with their neighbours than we are.

[Old Harry]

It's still worth sending the note about civplayers chariot cutting through our territory, just to reduce the stress on sulla with those workers. Cutting shouldn't be plural though scooter.

Perhaps add "unrelated to that how do you feel about getting a new admin?" And link to the requests to the admin thread (sorry don't have the link on my phone).

[Lord Parkin]

From Apolyton:

Greetings,

We discussed the NAP proposal and we still believe that it's better if we don't seek too long treaties with anyone, it keeps our options open ((and the game is more dynamic)).

We would like to sign a NAP till t175 right now, and then we can extend it again later.
Please confirm if we have an agreement.

MZ.

[dazedroyalty]

The conspiracy theorist in me says that it's funny that T175 is the turn they suggested given that we have other NAPs expiring then...

[kjn]

Yeah, just confirm that NAP. Even if Apolyton and CFC plan to dogpile us, then we will have our main veteran army up near Apolyton land, and against CFC a small front near our core where we are culturally dominant. And plenty of drafted units.

Anyway, here is a diplo overview after CivPlayers accepted OBs with us:




I think we should concentrate on getting better diplo with Univers next. We do have a gems available within a few turns (once the Germans connect their gems outside Wolfratshausen), and can probably go without a spice for a few turns. Those two size-13 cities that Univers owns would be nice for our trade income.

[scooter]

I guess we can try to get OB with UCiv for the 4th time and hope they don't ignore this one . Let's keep words to a minimum with them in case that helps make them more likely to respond.

Hey guys! Are you interested in signing Open Borders with us so we can both get some trade routes?

scooter - Team RB

I think we should probably just confirm that Apolyton NAP despite the fact that it coincides with the CFC NAP. And yes, it adds credence to my pet theory the two of those guys are BFFs. Any objections to doing so?

[kalin]

Scooter, can you ask them to do T180? I think it's pretty clear they would sign a NAP so why not try. We can say we prefer round numbers

Kalin

[scooter]

Scooter, can you ask them to do T180? I think it's pretty clear they would sign a NAP so why not try. We can say we prefer round numbers

Kalin

We already asked 185, so I'm not sure we can wiggle that much. If we ask, I think I"d rather just flat-out state we have multiple NAPs ending that turn, and we would prefer not to stack them. We could say we'd prefer 170 or 180 better, their choice?

[kalin]

Scooter, I like that. It gives a good reason for us wanting that and allow us to renegotiate around T160 when our military should be significant.

I am curious to hear other opinions fwiw.

Kalin