Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[spacetyrantxenu]

[dons tinfoil hat]...Or maybe he's the good cop being sent over to distract us with mysterious hand waving while they continue to plot against us....[/removes hat]

[scooter]

[dons tinfoil hat]...Or maybe he's the good cop being sent over to distract us with mysterious hand waving while they continue to plot against us....[/removes hat]

I made a mental note that it would take 30 minutes for this post. It took 8.

[Ceiliazul]

Agree with sulla, I've been away a couple days and there's been some high efficiency diplo going on. Regarding Germans:

How about this.

GWT,

First, we are also grateful for your team's fair treatment of us through diplomacy. We appreciate that very much!

However, we're actually expecting someone to attack us on T175, so we're pretty suspicious of any NAPs ending on that date. Is there any reason you picked that date, and/or do you know anything about plans to attack us on T175?

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

I love this draft. I'd also support no response at all. I vote against all of the other ideas discussed since their extenstion request.

[kalin]

I like scooter's draft to the Germans and agree with a slight delay in sending it. Every turn matters. I was quite annoyed when the host went down some time ago as that was another turn lost...

Kalin

[kjn]

Ideas for other ways we can possibly help the Spanish team against CFC:

Lend them stone for a short while - enough for them to get walls in their cities. It won't stop CFC, but it will slow them down, and maybe give enough time to the Spanish team to get HBR and enough elephants.

Intelligence sharing.

Sending over some hindu missionaries, though I think this latter will only be of limited value to them.


Speaking of missionaries, should we offer to send some of them over to Univers in return for open borders? They haven't adopted a state religion yet, and currently have 3 Hindu, 1 Taoist, 1 Christian, and 1 Buddhist city. Though the war against the German team must undoubtedly have priority.

[kalin]

What do people think about spreading hindu to CFC's "stupid" (for us) city.

Kalin

[spacetyrantxenu]

Does our NAP forbid it? I don't recall that we discussed that point. What is the benefit to us, the one gpt? Or are we planning spy missions for the post T175 world?

[Ruff_Hi]

Ruff's message of "we're heavily conflicted, give us a few days" manages to be both an outright lie AND a complete giveaway of our plans, so I definitely don't want to go that route.

Wait a minute ... it isn't an outright lie ... the team is conflicted about what type of message to send.

Does our agreement with CFC allow us to trade Ivory?

If / when CFC complain about our Ivory trade, we should reply that our main aim with the trade was a happy resource for a happy resource.

[Ruff_Hi]

... The NAP we have means we can't join in on your side or sign an alliance against CFC yet ...

Our favorite conspiracy theory is that CFC + Apolyton are in bed together and are planning a war against us around approximately T175.

Is this right? Does our NAP say that we cannot plot against CFC ... or form an alliance against them? If so ... and we think CFC is doing exactly that against us ... how do we call them on it? If we can't call them on it ... then why aren't we doing exactly the same thing with the Spanish?

[Lord Parkin]

From Spanish Apolyton:

well, I will check with our militar advisor, but looks like we will
have no big problems to resist 25 turns...
As the war ends just in a peace offer with no confirmation or
negotiation we had not stop watching our frontiers and buildings
defenses.... Thanks anyway for the advice.
Are you interested in joining us in 25 more turn so? It will depend in
wich kind of units we build if we know you are getting involved then