WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

[Friar Andrew]

I dont like Lizzy piling on and then saying she'll switch off - why percival too???

Elizabeth is currently on Percival, and has stated a high chance of piling onto Muriel if Percival shows up.

[Agnes The Orphan]

I dont like Lizzy piling on and then saying she'll switch off - why percival too???

Elizabeth is currently on Percival, and has stated a high chance of piling onto Muriel if Percival shows up.

sorry, me being stupid - thats obviously what he meant

I dont like Scarlet's Friar vote, seems to be just avoiding the trains for simple reasoning. I personally claimed my non-existant surname to dispel the idea that they metter - not seeing the problem with that?
I also don't see Friar actually contributing to the meta - while i disagree with the interpretation of Muriel's post, I don't think that Friars really doing anything tthere

[Know-Nothing Jon]

Some impressions from me about opening posts:

Muriel the Slow: Selrahcish, slightly wolfish.

Doctor Saul: Gazglumish, slightly wolfish.

Half-Nose Harry: thestickish, wolfish.

Half-Nose Harry

Very unoriginal opening post, trying to blend in.

[Know-Nothing Jon]

I dont like Scarlet's Friar vote, seems to be just avoiding the trains for simple reasoning.

I can agree with this, too.

[Know-Nothing Jon]

Widow Edith, why did you vote Lady Elizabeth despite her knowledge of werewolves?

I still want to hear an answer from the widow to the bard's question here.

[Agnes The Orphan]

Some impressions from me about opening posts:

Muriel the Slow: Selrahcish, slightly wolfish.

Doctor Saul: Gazglumish, slightly wolfish.

Half-Nose Harry: thestickish, wolfish.

Seriously, please dont do this

Half-Nose Harry

Very unoriginal opening post, trying to blend in.

Not sure where you get that from, seems like youre just voting at random...could you explain what your problem with it is?

Bert The Bard Wrote: Widow Edith, why did you vote Lady Elizabeth despite her knowledge of werewolves?


I still want to hear an answer from the widow to the bard's question here.

Also dont get whats being said here - what knowledge of werewolves???

[Know-Nothing Jon]

Meta speculation right out of the gate it seems.

I do mean that post.

I see your point. There is no way for a wolf to know that a villager's role PM talks about werewolfs. (I think brick would post a sample PM in the thread rather than giving it to the wolfs).

I re-read my role-PM and the only other piece of information is that I was given a last name. Do you think this matters at all guys?

Are you claiming vanilla town?

I re-read my role-PM and the only other piece of information is that I was given a last name. Do you think this matters at all guys?

Yes, it most definitely matters. If it didn't, it would have been included in your profile name. There has to be a reason why it is hidden.

Do you truly believe that the last names or lack thereof matters, or are you just trying to wind him/her up more?

It's scummy in the same way that thestick's opening post in WW16 was scummy. Random questions on established topics, making no actual contribution.

That's why I called it thestickish. I don't care if he actually is thestick or not.

[Fat Rose]

this +1
and I think it does belong as it has a direct effect on how its being played, and is very frustrating given work gone in

Darrells () post is very funny - forgot to quote

For myself and anyone else losing track, the following haven't posted:

Simple Anne
Fat Rose
Old Tom
Sister Mary
Sir Percival

I dont like Lizzy piling on and then saying she'll switch off - why percival too???

I don't get that. You agree that this whole metagaming isn't fun and not what this game should be about and than you post a list who hasn't posted yet, which is just another way of metagaming who is most likely in which timezone and therefore who is who. Doesn't really add up for me.

Apart from that, I agree that the whole metagaming is just not very fun. Nor do I see much sense in it. Even if I know that someone is novice or MJW, what is it telling me about his alignment? Nothing, exactly. So why even bother? It is just distracting and something for the wolves to hide behind. That said, we know who Lady Elizabeth (Courage) is and imo his post was in line with what I had expected from him. I can also buy the explanation from Widow Edith why she would vote there, just to express dislike, which is also indicated already by the accompanying sentence to her vote.

Leaves me with Bert the Bard and Know-Nothing-Jon. And I don't like the way the interaction played out between them. I can see how Bert is voting without reason to see who joins him, though I personally don't believe in these "gambits" (and also think it is very easy to state you did such a gambit when you actually just tested the waters if you can get someone lynched). But Know-Nothing-Jon obviously did not see it this way and voted for Bert, explaining that he sees nothing scummy about Courages post. I think that is fine and such a stance can be taken. But now Bert replies with 'I have a plan', Jon asks what it is, is told that maybe Bert isn't telling and that leads him to vote Widow Edith for following Bert. Um, what? You feel that vote is scummy, it gets not explained and therefore you vote whoever is following that scummy vote? Shouldn't you like... I don't know, keep the pressure up on the guy who is not answering you?

So, I really don't like that vote-switch. Especially as he was joined in the meantime by others on Bert, which should give a hint that the behaviour is seen as scummy by others as well. Together with getting no clear answer (and at that point there really is no point in holding back the reason imo) that should make him keep up the pressure imo. I'd probably still haven't given much more thought to it than "odd", but the explanation given for his vote-switch is imo not very good as well. He explains this new vote by stating that Widow Edith did follow Bert and should not give an explanation for her vote in that case and that therefore her explanation is just an excuse to follow Bert. I guess that's meant as in "scum feels that they always have to give an explanation for their vote, therefore her giving an explanation even though she is just following along is an indication for her being scum".

And that sounds for me like an awful excuse for himself to switch his vote off to someone else. Not only because of the timing (3 minutes between the two votes of Bert and Edith, so she might not have even seen that other vote) but also because I don't understand what is so hard to grasp about that sentence Edith posted together with her vote

"why sign up if you don't want to play by the rules?"

That's showing dislike for how Courage started the game. And I can perfectly understand that, no matter if the information might be helpful, it is just annoying that we start a game with "fake" identities, just for the first one to post already metagame who is who and to propose that everyone claims his real forum name. So I don't really see someone following Bert, but someone expressing dislike of how someone else started the game. Basically imo Jon just bended what was posted and deliberately ignored or misunderstood it to have a reason to vote for her.

Know-Nothing-Jon

One other point: Bert claims that voting Courage didn't make sense because he showed clear knowledge of wolves being the only threat. I'm not really sure why wolves could not know that, maybe by getting information about the standard role-PM of the village or just the victory-condition.

fake-edit: @Agnes

Courage stated in his first post that his role-PM states that there is only one enemy-faction (werewolves) in the game. Imo it could be two werewolf-factions as well but whatever. That shows knowledge of the villager-PM that Bert believes wolves wouldn't have, therefore Courage has to be a villager, therefore everyone voting him is a wolf. Which is his reason to vote Edith, despite he himself being first to vote Courage, but he somehow tries to sell it as a "plan" he had to draw out wolves that would be eager to follow him. I'm not certain that logic is sound, but after last game I'm not certain if the logic of "Bert" is ever sound tbh.

[Know-Nothing Jon]

Serdoa, I thought maybe there would be a wolf on MJW, but then again, maybe not. So I moved on.

Your ten-page justification for voting for me is slight overkill.

[Sir Percival]

Sir Percival, for being more influential than me.

How exactly is Muriel's post a wall of text? It's 2 paragraphs, and ~10 lines on my screen. Seems an entirely appropriate length for a mildly elaborate "hey idiots, stop analysing useless meta" post.

Lacking a surname here as well.

haha suck it fatty

sir percy v up in this shiz

Some impressions from me about opening posts:

Muriel the Slow: Selrahcish, slightly wolfish.

Doctor Saul: Gazglumish, slightly wolfish.

Half-Nose Harry: thestickish, wolfish.

Half-Nose Harry

Very unoriginal opening post, trying to blend in.

agree if u want guess whos who keep it urself

lady lizbeth is scum