I just checked, and indeed with the 24-bit version of your image the colors are not mangled.
I'll make a note to convert images with a palette automatically.
I'll make a note to convert images with a palette automatically.
--I like ILSe
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Real-Time Game Tweaker
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August 7th, 2013, 15:38
(This post was last modified: August 10th, 2013, 04:43 by I like Serena.)
Tweaker version 0.2.7 is out!
You can find it in the usual location on sourceforge (when it refreshes, since it currently still shows the previous version): https://sourceforge.net/projects/momrtgt/ Changes:
--I like ILSe
First, let me say a giant "thank you" for all the hard work you've done - I was thrilled to see the editor.
I am experiencing some issues using it (Win 7, 64 bit OS, "n" version of Insecticide). First, quite a few terrain editing options are missing. For example, my only choices under Terrain Type (first one) are 1 for grassland, 0 for ocean, 2 for shore... everything else shows as unknown (and generally ends up being ocean). There also seems to be no way to add wild game (or to restore wild game if you change it by mistake). The map just shows in the editor as a big pink blob (not sure if that's the 24 bit issue you were talking about earlier, but I have no clue how to change it to 24 bit if that's the problem!). I can still click on the map and change features, but it's always trial and error to hit the right spot on the blob (and I have to find the right spot anew every time, since it doesn't "light up" on the blob once selected). Finally - and this is my biggest request - is there a text file anywhere (or a menu accessible from within the program) that lists all the options for each field? I'm just figuring things out by trial and error (e.g. what the 10 options are for Terrain Bonus); some of the numbers (e.g. spells) are in the "show tables" view, but some are missing (like terrain types, bonuses, etc...). Thanks again!
August 10th, 2013, 04:34
(This post was last modified: August 10th, 2013, 04:47 by I like Serena.)
Hi Zamboni! Welcome to RB!
 Thanks for you kind words. Let me start by saying that if the editor shows up as a big pink blob, you probably don't have the latest version yet. Did you download 0.2.7? It does work seamlessly on Win7, 64 bit with insecticide 1.40n, which is also what I'm currently using. The tweaker does support all the terrain tiles. If you get ocean, that just because you entered the number of an ocean tile. There is a whole sequence of grassland tiles. If you right click the TerrainType, you'll see 4 grasslands tiles with a picture that you can select: grasslands0, grasslands1, grasslands2, and grasslands3. Actually grasslands2 and grasslands3, that are next to each other, represent a whole range of grasslands. You can pick another one by entering a number, although it will give you the text "unknown", it is still grassland and will show up as such. Somewhere there is a bitmap with a list of all the terrain tiles. If you want I can see if I can find it again an upload it. You can add and remove wild game. Right click the TerrainBonus field and you can simply check or uncheck it. If the map shows up as a blob (actually a pinkish grid now), that means the game is in a state where the map is not accessible. That happens for instance if you're looking at the overland map while you're in combat (or the other way around). That, or you have the relevant check boxes unchecked, making the background "shine through". So no, that's not the 24bit issue that only applied to the LBX editor (different feature). In the newest version (0.2.7), clicking with the right mouse button in the "Feature" section, shows all possibities. That you're asking for it confirms to me that you do not have the latest version. Btw, if you start using it and give me some feedback, I will improve it and make it more user friendly.
--I like ILSe
Ahh! I hadn't been right clicking - now I see those menus, which is great!
I'm definitely running 0.2.7 and still see a pink grid for the map (in the game itself I'm just at the general map view). I've tried checking and unchecking various boxes in the map view, but it doesn't seem to make any difference (except when I uncheck "explored only", but that just changes how much is pink and how much is black). Is there another place to change settings? Thanks!
August 10th, 2013, 15:57
(This post was last modified: August 10th, 2013, 15:58 by I like Serena.)
There is no other place to change settings.
So let's see if we can figure this out. In the directory of the Tweaker there will be a file named "cout_cerr.log". Can you show me its contents? It may be that the pictures of the game could not get loaded. To verify, can you tell me whether you have the building pictures? That is, if you look at the main screen of the Tweaker, you should see a tree view. The second node is Buildings. If you click it open, you should see the pictures of all the buildings. This is assuming you have checked Update tree view and Use icons. Do you see the building pictures? Can you give me more details? For instance, did you connect to a game or did you load a save file? Do other features work properly? Or do you have more problems?
--I like ILSe
There are no pictures under buildings (or elsewhere, actually).
At the bottom of the main screen I have "update tree view" and "use icons" both clicked. Maybe the problem is where I installed Tweaker - it's just on a folder on my desktop. Should it be in the MoM folder? The main one? A subfolder? I can modify the game from where it currently is, I just seem to be missing some features. There are definitely issues loading files (and it does indeed look like it's the location that's the problem): Output tee'ed from cout Output tee'ed from cerr Found MoM Window 'DOSBox 0.73, Cpu Cycles: max, Frameskip 0, Program: MAGIC' (hwnd=0x1e28a0) Opened MoM process (processId=0x1cf0) Found MoM BaseAddress 0x87f0000 with size 0x1001000 MoM Data Segment (DS) Identifier (size 47) is at offset 0x28370 Found MoM Data Segment (DS_SEG0) Offset as 2835:0 Hex sequence was: ba 35 28 2e 89 16 c4 02 Could not find LOCAL_DIRECTORY Could not open file 'WIZARDS.EXE' Could not (fully) read file 'WIZARDS.EXE' Could not open file '/FONTS.LBX' Could not open file '/CITYSCAP.LBX' Could not open file '/MAPBACK.LBX' Could not open file '/CMBTCITY.LBX' Could not open file '/CITYWALL.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES1.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES2.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES3.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES4.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES5.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES6.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES7.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES8.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURES9.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURE10.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURE11.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURE12.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURE13.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURE14.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURE15.LBX' Could not open file '/FIGURE16.LBX' Could not open file '/ITEMISC.LBX' Could not open file '/ITEMS.LBX' Could not open file '/RELOAD.LBX' Could not open file '/MAPBACK.LBX' Could not open file '/SPECIAL.LBX' Could not open file '/SPECIAL2.LBX' Could not open file '/UNITS1.LBX' Could not open file '/CITYSCAP.LBX' Could not open file '/CMBGRASS.LBX' Could not open file '/TERRAIN.LBX' Could not open file '/HELP.LBX'
The folder where you have the Tweaker won't matter.
No, the problem is that the Tweaker tries to deduce what the folder of your connected MoM game is. It turns out that it fails. So what would work, is if you load a save game instead of connecting to a game. Then the location of MoM is deduced from the location of the save game. Can you verify that? It looks like your DOSBox is working slightly different from mine. Can you tell me how you configured DOSBox? What is the directory location of MoM? And what is the command line use to start MoM?
--I like ILSe
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