RB PBEM #1 - Gandhi [spoilers]

[Ruff_Hi]

• FF - Cannon [2]
  
• LQ - Cannon [2]
  
• DV - Globe [3]
  
• BH - Cannon [1]
  
• BS - Courthouse [6]
  
• AC - Moai [2]
  
• TN - Spy [3]
  
• KS - Granary [3]
  
• Scout (Dead Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Scout (Live Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Tech - Military Tradition [2], -97g at 100% science, 276g in the bank
  
• Opponent Current Tech Research
  • sooooo - Chemisty [1], 527g, -217g @ 0%
    
  • athlete - Rifling [169], 375g, +95g
    
  • mostly harmless - Constitution [114], 23g, +27g
    

Hmm - more mh funniness with money.

[darrelljs]

Any suggestions on who's cities I should take ... plan is sooooo's .

Now you're talking !

Darrell

[Jabah]

I am curious to know how you expected to break through DV, the front line seems to be really really narrow and your cannons will have to face flanking cuirrasiers (or worst) for a whole turn in ennemy territory (or am I missing a key part of offensive tatics)

[Ruff_Hi]

At the moment, the person that attacks will be shredded. My plan is to have better units than Sooooo or a much, much bigger army. I think that both of us will move even more into a huge military build up but the key to breaking through DV will be diversion (ie not attacking through DV).

I don't have any firm plans in place yet for an offensive push.

[Ruff_Hi]

• FF - Cannon [1]
  
• LQ - Cannon [1]
  
• DV - Globe [2]
  
• BH - Cannon [1]
  
• BS - Courthouse [5]
  
• AC - Moai [1]
  
• TN - Spy [2]
  
• KS - Granary [2]
  
• Scout (Dead Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Scout (Live Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Tech - Military Tradition [1], -98g at 100% science, 179g in the bank
  
• Opponent Current Tech Research
  • sooooo - just finished Chemisty, 310g, -219g @ 90%
    
  • athlete - Rifling [9], 249g, -124g
    
  • mostly harmless - Constitution [113], 48g, +36g
    

It took 2 spies but I managed to steal Replaceable Parts from Sooooo. I have a pretty good beaker overflow from finishing Military Tradition so I should be able to land Rifling in 3 or 4 turns. However, I will need about 100g per turn from Dreylin.

I expect to lose those 2 farms at DV next turn. They currently say 50% Greek, 49% Indian.

[Ruff_Hi]

Here is the (almost) current position on Death Valley. I expect that the two tiles marked with red Xs will be sooooo's farms by next turn. Also, note that they currently do NOT have roads on them (even though the pic looks like they do).



As you can see from the map, ownership of those tiles is critical to any quick attack against Sooooo's city (or against mine). In fact, given Sooooo's poor road network, if I can put units on his mine 1 South of his city, he cannot respond by putting units outside of my city.

Sooooo's DV city is putting out 24 culture per turn while my city (DV) is currently putting out 15, soon to be 21 once The Globe completes in 2 turns. At that point, it is a 5 turn build for a Conf Academy (+50% culture) which will bump that to 30 culture per turn.

[Ruff_Hi]

• FF - Cannon [2]
  
• LQ - Cannon [1]
  
• DV - Globe [1]
  
• BH - Cannon [1]
  
• BS - Courthouse [5]
  
• AC - Cannon [4]
  
• TN - Spy [1]
  
• KS - Granary [1]
  
• Scout (Dead Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Scout (Live Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Tech - Rifling [3], -100g at 100% science, 184g in the bank
  
• Opponent Current Tech Research
  • sooooo - Steel [1], 126g, -185g @ 90%
    
  • athlete - Rifling [9], 83g, -166g (upgrades?)
    
  • mostly harmless - Constitution [112], 83g, +33g
    

HA! Those farms are still mine. But Sooooo is 1 turn from completing Steel - a 2 turn tech. His capital is putting out 407b all by itself (impressive). He also has a Great Scientist due in 3 - wonder what he will do with it. Dreylin sent me 100g. I have 1 turn of my GA left ... probably better to spend it teching and finishing my bank then look at finishing Rifling.

[Ruff_Hi]

I expect to lose those 2 farms at DV next turn. They currently say 50% Greek, 49% Indian.

This is just strange. Those two tiles now say 49% Greek and 50% Indian. That is with sooooo's putting out 24 culture to my 15. If Sooooo does get them, it will not be for very long (Conf Academy is a 4 turn build ).

[Ruff_Hi]

• FF - Cannon [1]
  
• LQ - Bank [2]
  
• DV - Conf Academy [3]
  
• BH - Cannon [1]
  
• BS - Courthouse [3]
  
• AC - Cannon [3]
  
• TN - Forge [4]
  
• KS - Courthouse [10]
  
• Scout (Dead Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Scout (Live Man Walking) - scouting Sooooo land
  
• Tech - Rifling [2], -107g at 100% science, 111g in the bank
  
• Opponent Current Tech Research
  • sooooo - just finished Steel, 19g, -193g @ 90%
    
  • athlete - Rifling [9], 46g, -37g
    
  • mostly harmless - Constitution [129], 29g, +25g
    

mh sends money to sooooo? My GA finishes at the end of this turn, so those build numbers are probably all wrong. Those farms are still mine but now they show 49% Indian and 50% Greek.

[Ruff_Hi]

Hey - look at this ...



If I put a setter, worker and archer on the red X and then declare war on Sooooo - the units are moved to the yellow circle.

I've sent the following to sooooo to see what he says ...

Sooooo,

I would like to send the following units into your land (Settler, Archer, Worker) and then declare war on you. This is a dummy war declaration designed to get the 3 units mentioned to the area that Sullla designed me to have (the gold, iron 5 or so tile area that no one can get to). I will be offering peace on the same turn that I declare on you.

Post in my thread from Sullla ... "When designing this map, I did not know the rules for building ships on lakes, and I intended for that lake to be navicable. So apologies for not having an extra city site there, but at least we all know how it works for the future (work boats opened up by having a seafood resource, 20+ water tiles enables ships)."

Are you ok with this?

Ruff

Now - assuming sooooo says "YES", where should I put the city? I am thinking on the plains forest 1 tile South of the Gold. Also, what should I build there? Military units are a totally waste - do I just build gold straight off? What about a Granery to help the city get up to size? A lighthouse makes sense too.