[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[retep]

Our chariot moved and ... saw some corn!

you're welcome

[TeddyKGB]

I agree with you, DMOC.
Except CM, I think we should grow size5 and start 2sci on T67.

[TeddyKGB]

T66.

Cornell founded.
3rd cottage finished.
2nd Horses pastured.

Didn't finish turn, you may want to change CM to 2sci.
Barb warrior moving toward CM, guess 'retep' could take care of it.
Scout found LP's western border.

Scores and demos.
Looking better, 1st in food, 2nd in MFG.
Note that some team start trading.

Cities.

Units. 2 chariots and eastern warrior unmoved.

I'm online now, so I could finish the turn short after Asterix.
Or you could finish it with changes you like.
If you decide change CM to 2sci now, don't forget to keep working 1st cottage by Stanford. It will grow to hamlet on T69.

[TeddyKGB]

About techs again.

We don't need Sailing right now if we establish trade routes with India by land.
Anyway, even if we go Sailing next, we could keep slider at 0% for 1-3 turns more.

[DMOC]

Looks good. Since we're going to want to work the cottages anyway, then I guess it's okay to wait until next turn to work the Great Scientists.

Remember, while we do want the commerce from India, won't they get more of a benefit from the commerce relative to us? What i mean is that if we and India each get, say, 200 gold, and can bump up the silder, won't they have the advantage due to more population to burn through deficit research? I'm not sure we should be helping them out any more, especially after they settled city 6 in our territory. [Edit: I know I explained this poorly, and my logic may be off, but supporting India doesn't seem like the right tactic right now ... but we can talk about this, not like it's set in stone.]

The scout can circle back down and see if we can finally set trades with SutOxy. We dont need Sailing right now, can wait until next turn to start bumping up research again. Sadly, we won't have roads to Cornell set up until turn 68 due to the delay with the desert.

Want to move retep around to explore? I'd like to see what's near that corn.

Do we want the worker who just finished that third cottage to start roading towards the silver?

Edit: Since scout will need to go through Orgynized lands to scout coast can we request permission to scout coast?

Edit2: Since MIT will actually finish library at size 5 (faster than I thought) we can even wait 3 more turns before turning on research again.

[TeddyKGB]

India not necessary has more pop. From last screenshot M&M sent us: their capital at size2. And they are keep whipping.
Once they had granaries and forges, its a different story. But by that time we could establish trade routes with LP and OS by sea and close borders with Yuufo.
And we can found city on that 1tile island for IC trade routes.

I'm not sure how fast India could put Libraries online also.

We don't want to support India, but we have to support ourself. Without FIN and no trade routes before LP allow us to trade with him, I'm afraid we has no choise but trade with India.
We should do whats best for us and deal with India later. Or we could embargo India for the benefit of LP and all other teams.

Roads to Cornell in plan on T70. Copper mine first.

I wanted 'retep' chase that barb. But its up to you.

Not sure what worker should do. If we are set on delaying Math, he could chop something. Otherwise - road or improve some GH or cottage.

We need to talk with LP. Confirm we had some deals (he didn't reply yet) and ask permission to move through his culture. Offer screenshot of forested river land, ask for screenshot of his north coast for scout move.

MIT could take a lake for 1 turn to grow size5 faster. But if we delay worker from MIT, we could as well get 2nd library (in a gold city) on T69 and turn slider on with large beakers per turn. CM could start 2sci now or next turn, its not optimal, but we aiming for relatively early GS here, not max beakers before T69/

[DMOC]

You address some good points. Let's think it over about the open borders, but we should probably check in with Asterix.

Right now I think it's probably best if we can get as much of the corn area explored as possible, then we can chase down the barb warrior. Might as well get planning for our next cities now.

Worker near Stanford; I would suggest roading to the city 6 site, as Stanford should be able to get the settler relatively quickly via whip.

MIT; hm ... interesting, but let's see if we can stick with the 3-turn growth (with library completed)... might give us lots of savings in return. And yes, I agree that CM doesn't need to start great scientists until next turn.

[TeddyKGB]

Asterix has OB with India long time ago. They could establish trade routes via roads next turn or close.

Ok, lets explore with 'retep'.

Ok, worker will roading next turn.

Ok, that was some early plan. We could get Math on T75 if you like. Set up workers to chops finished same turn. Probably get Lib in Cornell by T76 (after granary).

[TeddyKGB]

Chat a bit with OS.

They are not optimistic about Asterix. He (Sut?) sent Asterix mail, waiting for reply, as he said in chat.

Quotes:

well, teams have to expand at some point, but its unstable to expand (like India) without a partner to grow along with - else dogpile.  So I guess its key to form partnerships who can grow in tandem

LexIVn (04:50:45 18/10/2013)
i'm guessing u and LP working together for now as well?

ecpb14@gmail.com (04:52:48 18/10/2013)
well, we have open borders - we have no reason to dislike anyone who is willing to maintain a balance.

I agree - we'll keep you updated on any changes in our situation with LP. We suspect a AP monk economy run.

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:01:55 18/10/2013)
Mids is a great wonder. I'm curious if LP also got one of stone/marble.   Might give a good hint as to his tech path.

ecpb14@gmail.com (05:02:38 18/10/2013)
Mids,GLH would both be great wonders to get.

 
I did whine a bit how poor our position is. Not sure it'll help them to see us a non-threat long term, but I've tried.

[TeddyKGB]

Finish the turn.
'retep' exploring. Keep eastern warrior close to Cornell.

On a second thought, moved warrior 1E. Would be fun is Yuufo will break a NAP now.