[SPOILERS] Tres Equis: Mardoc plays the Most Interesting Civ in the World

[Mardoc]

Less if I can boost Vanilla more than that or use Slavery - that's a guess without actually counting tile yields.

Slavery can't be used to hurry a ritual, unless you mean you'd whip something else and use the overflow.

If you do plan to utilize whip overflow, it might be helpful to whip things early and then wait to complete them until later. A building in the queue with 59/40 hammers invested can be saved until the hammers are needed for another goal.

Forgot that PoW is a ritual, but yeah, overflow is always an option. I don't think it's too likely to be worth any careful shenanigans, though, compared to simply working a lot of hammer tiles. Slavery will be a lot more valuable places like Mint, with a lot of food and only two mines.

[Mardoc]

No thoughts tonight, just a picture:

[Azarius]

Huh, I guess one of the archers went for a stroll. I wouldn't have figured on the Amurites to prioritize RoK so highly. Lairs are off right, so no free thane pop?

[Mardoc]

I'm sorta tempted to build some warriors and try to take out the one archer/one warrior garrison, yes. But I'm en route to the PoW anyway, and I need them anyway, so there's not much point in spending a bunch of hammers to get the city a few turns early. Instead I've got 2 settlers in queue, we're going to try to accelerate the city founding a bit.

Yeah, lairs off. And yeah, RoK doesn't usually make much sense for anyone not Spiritual - makes me worry a bit less about the Amurites. I'm pretty sure they're the civ with the early Academy, too. But if they burn their beakers on things that aren't important, then the GNP lead doesn't matter nearly as much.

[Mardoc]

New city.



Need to spend some time picking out some more sites, but I haven't found the focus yet. Also need more scouting info and more military - definitely looking forward to having the PoW. Vanilla is at 19 base hpt at the moment, could easily bump it higher if I give up on some farms, so the PoW are likely to complete T72. Assuming nothing else interferes.

[Mardoc]

Alright, Philosophy's in, as are two settlers. PoW should be a nine-turn build, and hopefully the other cities can spit out enough warriors to keep up with the barbs while the PoW are in progress. I certainly have the worker force, 8 workers and 2 cities already happy-capped.

I think I need to revolt to Slavery, I've got too much food and not enough hammers in my empire, in general. I really need hammers for monuments, scouts, and safety. That'll delay the PoW a turn, but I think it's worth it for the rest of the empire. Debating if I should pair it with any other revolts: in particular maybe I should wait for Apprenticeship.

Next two cities are going to be Rocky Road and IceC, I think.

Next tech: definitely Education. I need to speed up my teching, which means either cottages or continuing on to Code of Laws. Or both. Knowledge of the Ether continues to be important, but I don't have the hammers to take advantage of it just yet, not until I've gotten the balance back through the

[Azarius]

Are many barbs are showing up? Getting the PoW up and running will be nice at any rate, so many uses for them.

Is slavery better in EitB than in base FFH? I always found it somewhat lackluster, mainly because of the much less efficient granary mainly.

For the city location I would say 1E, but I am also prone to avoiding overlap like the plague in my games. I know that in most games here people seem to prefer closer spacings to get it running faster, at least initially. It's not like it's your 2nd city tho. It could still share the sheep to get it running. It's hard to tell for sure from that last shot, but it looks like the 1E spot picks up at least a couple more irrigable grasslands of it's own in addition to the pig and oasis, so will be able to grow more on it's own without inhibiting the capital. Also, hill plant with no hills next to it is always nice, but with the room you have it's not like it's a border city so that's probably moot. So ya, I definitely favor the 1E location, but as I said given my proclivities you may want to take that with a grain of salt.

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Is slavery better in EitB than in base FFH? I always found it somewhat lackluster, mainly because of the much less efficient granary mainly.

No.

[Mardoc]

Are many barbs are showing up? Getting the PoW up and running will be nice at any rate, so many uses for them.

One every couple of turns. Enough that I haven't been able to send out scouts, anyway.

Is slavery better in EitB than in base FFH? I always found it somewhat lackluster, mainly because of the much less efficient granary mainly.

No, not really. And I suspect it may be suboptimal here, but I want to try it anyway. But I'll wait for Apprenticeship and do a double revolt.

For the city location I would say 1E, but I am also prone to avoiding overlap like the plague in my games. I know that in most games here people seem to prefer closer spacings to get it running faster, at least initially. It's not like it's your 2nd city tho.

Um...you mean the city I already posted a screenshot of founded on the 1E hill?

In general, though, planting cities close together depends on the map. The lusher it is, the more your limit is happiness - gotta plant close together just to work all the good tiles.

No, my debate is over the 5th and 6th city locations .

[Azarius]

Um...you mean the city I already posted a screenshot of founded on the 1E hill?

In general, though, planting cities close together depends on the map. The lusher it is, the more your limit is happiness - gotta plant close together just to work all the good tiles.

No, my debate is over the 5th and 6th city locations .

Yes that'd be the one. I'm not sure how I didn't notice you had already settled that one.

I look forward to seeing what you can get out of slavery. It may very well be that this is a situation where it is called for given how much food you have vs hammers. What is your debate on the next two cities? The order to found them, or where to plant?