January 14th, 2014, 08:14
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(January 13th, 2014, 18:12)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: compy says position is around '-0.50' which is about what I expected
Edit: All I looked at was the evaluation so an exhibition game would still be possible.
Hm, Houdini 4 gives -0.3 but quite honestly I am not really interested in playing that game out. It won't help determine "how it should have ended" because the strength of a human player varies every day. Maybe one day you are tired and miss an easy check, the next day you spot a complicated tactic that you would miss 9/10 times.
Rowain Wrote:But I have tried now the "finish game vs computer"-feature 4 times and lost twice, draw once and managed a win but I have my doubts about the chesscom-computers strength.
All in all that aftermath has taught me a lot about such endings (what to move and what not).
I am not sure how you managed to win against the computer, this position is a dead draw. You should play it over and over until there is no way you would lose something like this.
Jkaen Wrote:Well first game lost after the blunder to MJW, will see how far my raing has crashed after this tourney finishes
You guys put to much emphasis on rating. Why do you care so much about your rating? At best, it should show your long term progress.
Right now you have the chance to play quite a few stronger players in a tournament which is one of the best ways to improve. So what's the big deal if you lose a few Elo points in the process? You should make sure to play your best chess not worry about your Elo.
January 14th, 2014, 08:22
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January 14th, 2014, 08:33
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Can you post Houdini's analysis of the final position at least?
People care about rating so much because it's the only real objective measure of playing strength. Pretty much everything else can be cheesed or BSed extremely easily. So if you want to say how good you are without making unfalsifiable and meaningless statements you ether point to your rating or you go home.
January 14th, 2014, 08:37
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(January 14th, 2014, 08:22)Gustaran Wrote: Gustaran-novice
January 14th, 2014, 08:43
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How does the "tie break" number work, and how is it calculated?
I'm too lazy to make a bunch of spoiler tags, so I'll just say that I'm having fun and that keeping up with 9 concurrent games is a lot of work, as predicted (once they're out of the book theory).
If I steered any games into a boring position, please forgive me. It is probably safe to assume that I didn't know where I was heading.
If you know what I mean.
January 14th, 2014, 08:48
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(January 14th, 2014, 08:43)zakalwe Wrote: How does the "tie break" number work, and how is it calculated?
A tiebreak score is the sum of:
(Your score against opponent X)*(Opponent X's score across all 18 games) for all 9 of your opponents.
It rewards players who do better against the stronger opponents - I had a tourney where 1st place went 9-1, and because I had the one win against him, I won the tiebreaker against the other guy who had 6.5 as well (even though he beat me head to head 1.5-0.5).
January 14th, 2014, 08:51
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(January 14th, 2014, 08:43)zakalwe Wrote: How does the "tie break" number work, and how is it calculated?
I'm too lazy to make a bunch of spoiler tags, so I'll just say that I'm having fun and that keeping up with 9 concurrent games is a lot of work, as predicted (once they're out of the book theory).
If I steered any games into a boring position, please forgive me. It is probably safe to assume that I didn't know where I was heading.
Add up the number of points your opponent has scored win you win.
Add up half the number of you opponent has win you draw.
You get zero tie-break points if you lose.
This is called the Berger tiebreak score.
January 14th, 2014, 09:09
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