WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[Qgqqqqq]

Afaik what if the killer was you Q does that count ?

Well it wasn't me, so y'know...but still, I don't understand what you mean. (Count for what?)

"That killer" refers to the killer ryan scryed. He would be the third killer.

Again, how do you know there is no overlap? It is not nessecarily just a wolf that would attack you.

I really just don't like changing the rules in the middle of a match. Slippery slope. And I think that poll is part of this game. For example, if anyone voted "I'm a communist" we should lynch him. So this is not "other forum-based activity" in the first place.

No we really shouldn't...the polls are just a fun interlude, like the writeups. I sincerly doubt they have any bearing on the game, and no one should be lynched based off non-invasive joking. If it was possible I would change my vote to the third option and dare you to lynch me. (And the reason for me wanting the rule change is not the poll itself, but the precedent that sets for other things.)

[Serdoa]

Serdoa, what did you do last night?

Screw you vig for hitting me.

Tracking people. All will be revealed, in due time.

I hope I haven't signed my death warrant. I'm far from the only person who pushed for Old Harry. This sounds a bit like you setting me up as the target for today before discussion has happened properly, like you attacked Rowain for the night before.

I think you are a target for today by your own actions Gazglum.

Also I won't answer the first part of your post in detail because it comes down to me thinking that you should not have played like that in the situation you were in and you saying that this is just the way you play. Pointless and pretty much certainly going to aggravate someone if we discuss this, as there is no consensus in the middle to be found

Why would I stick my neck out on Novice if I was scum either? I would be much more likely to play for my own safety in that regard, especially when there were plenty of other people around to carry the Old Harry vote.

Also, you're building a case predicated on BOTH Novice and I being scum. You're always telling us you are an experienced player, you should be experienced enough to know that those kidn of chain assumptions, however beautiful they may seem to you, have very high chances of being wrong.

Yes. But high chances of it being wrong don't mean that it is wrong. And if the play points to it, the easiest explanation is because you are scum.

Just pointing out something here: I am an experienced (scum)player and so is novice. Is someone really telling me that either of us decided that we would make a run for Q to save Azza? Someone that normally plays on his own and won't even tell you his role in the scum-thread if not absolutely necessary (that happened in a WW game I was scum with him)? And not only that, but in my case I even screwed further up and called my scum-buddy out in thread regarding his vote against MJW? But then was not only dumb enough not to act upon it but even did the opposite and tried to vote another candidate up? Tonight when I should have been sleeping I was thinking about Rowain pointing out the WW-game in which I tried to save TT. And I realised that if you believe I would play like that still, than you also have to believe that I would not incriminate my scum-buddy first but bail him out instead.

You may have a point about pointing out Azza's tell first, that might be out of character for Scum Serdoa.

But why wouldn't you try to save him? This is a team bloodsport. And the whole point of the Azza vote was that it was NOT overwhelming. It wasn't like Old Harry, where the writing was on the wall from hours before the lynch. There was no strong case on Azza, for a lot of people he seemed just the best pick of a bad bunch. And the votes were spread evenly. Scum could have easily saved him if not for the robot and Lewwyn charging to the rescue, and they couldn't have predicted that. And I'm not saying they all would have had to do it, just 1 or 2.

See, and that's exactly why I didn't want to discuss people based just on their Q-vote. Everyone can spin these last 30 minutes of the day in whichever way they want. Scum made a run for him, no just 1, not all of them, no none of them, if they did I was just thinking they make a 100m-run and wanted to show how good I am at it... It really is pointless

It makes me really suspicious that you keep arguing that scum would be so heartless they wouldn't lift a single finger to save Azza. Especially if other people bolstering Q were village, so it would like they only needed to tilt the scales a tiny bit to save their man. I've been scum Serdoa, Mattimeo was my true Pack Brother. And I, for one, would have tried to save Azza.

I'm sure you would not only have tried but you did try.

[Serdoa]

And also I'm now to scared to vote for anything. You are mean meanies

(And look, you made the smiley unhappy too.)

[MJW (ya that one)]

Did the person who you tracked move?

[Gazglum]

See, and that's exactly why I didn't want to discuss people based just on their Q-vote. Everyone can spin these last 30 minutes of the day in whichever way they want. Scum made a run for him, no just 1, not all of them, no none of them, if they did I was just thinking they make a 100m-run and wanted to show how good I am at it... It really is pointless

Well, I agree that further discussion of it between us would just be retreading old ground. You're a suspect for me, but I will cast a wider net as well today.

[Mattimeo]

- Did I murder a loyal troubleshooter last night? I think I remember doing that...

...is that a vig claim, or merely roleplay on the Old Harry lynch?

Seems like a bit happened last night. Ryan's claiming to have found someone else capable of killing, MJW knows whoever got him was a vig. Would be interested to know how Serdoa's tracking fared, since we know he did something.

[MJW (ya that one)]

Afaik what if the killer was you Q does that count ?

Well it wasn't me, so y'know...but still, I don't understand what you mean. (Count for what?)

"That killer" refers to the killer ryan scryed. He would be the third killer.

Again, how do you know there is no overlap? It is not nessecarily just a wolf that would attack you.

I really just don't like changing the rules in the middle of a match. Slippery slope. And I think that poll is part of this game. For example, if anyone voted "I'm a communist" we should lynch him. So this is not "other forum-based activity" in the first place.

No we really shouldn't...the polls are just a fun interlude, like the writeups. I sincerly doubt they have any bearing on the game, and no one should be lynched based off non-invasive joking. If it was possible I would change my vote to the third option and dare you to lynch me. (And the reason for me wanting the rule change is not the poll itself, but the precedent that sets for other things.)

I said that a VIG attacked me; not a wolf.

The polls are probably just flavor but they are still part of the game.

[Mattimeo]

Tracking people. All will be revealed, in due time.

Huh. Plural?

[Serdoa]

@MJW: Yes.

And just to make you all understand HOW sad I am now:

[Gazglum]

- Did I murder a loyal troubleshooter last night? I think I remember doing that...

...is that a vig claim, or merely roleplay on the Old Harry lynch?

Seems like a bit happened last night. Ryan's claiming to have found someone else capable of killing, MJW knows whoever got him was a vig. Would be interested to know how Serdoa's tracking fared, since we know he did something.

Roleplay. Brick's putting so much work into the setting I think we could all do a bit more roleplay.

And we absolutely shouldn't hear Serdoa's tracking claim until later in the day.