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WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

Well, is it correct that:

1. We now Catwalk can kill.
2. He used his ability on MJW the night MJW died.

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Yes and yes. But he stated it only works if the target tries to kill him.
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Tally as of post 1962:

9 votes: Ryan (zakalwe, Imana-665-C, novice, Serdoa, Jowy, Ichabod, Merovech, sunrise089, Qgqqqqq)
2 votes: Catwalk (Bobchillingworth, Rowain)
2 votes: Bobchillingworth (Mattimeo, Ryan)

Voting history:
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Rowain
Qgqqqqq Wrote: Jowy
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Catwalk
Serdoa Wrote: Ryan
zakalwe Wrote: Ryan
Imana-665-C Wrote: Ryan
Mattimeo Wrote: Bobchillingworth
novice Wrote: Mattimeo
novice Wrote: Mattimeo
novice Wrote: Mattimeo
novice Wrote: Mattimeo
novice Wrote: Ryan
Rowain Wrote: catwalk
Serdoa Wrote: Ryan
Jowy Wrote: Ryan
Ryan Wrote: Bobchillingworth
Ichabod Wrote: bobchillingworth
Ryan Wrote: Bobchillingworth
Ichabod Wrote: Ryan
Qgqqqqq Wrote: Ichabod
Merovech Wrote: Ryan
sunrise089 Wrote: Rowain
sunrise089 Wrote: Ryan
Qgqqqqq Wrote: Ryan

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(January 31st, 2014, 09:00)Serdoa Wrote: Yes and yes. But he stated it only works if the target tries to kill him.

This could very well be a preemptive excuse for anyone claiming to have seen him visit MJW, much in the same way that he preemptively claimed his killer role. I know he explained his reason to target MJW, but it was a very bad one.

This makes me want to lynch Catwalk...
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(January 26th, 2014, 02:17)Catwalk Wrote: I did go after MJW tonight, in a sense. I didn't succesfully hit him, though. My ability is Paranoia: Each night I pick a target to defend myself against. If that player tries to kill me, I dodge the bullet and shoot that player instead. MJW did not target me though, and I didn't hit him. I was concerned he'd target me due to accusations he made against me later in the day, and I also suspected him of being a serial killer due to his ability to hoard more abilities.

Here's Catwalk post where he explains why he used his power on MJW. Here's the thing I find hard to believe: how does he know that MJW didn't hit him. If his role is what he's claiming, I really doubt BRick would inform if he used his role or not. I think he'd only see the night results. As as my experience goes, the only roles that receive a PM to show if they were successful or not are investigative roles.

Besides, Paranoia could very well be a watcher ability. But, the name also suits very well with the role Catwalk claimed. Ergo, it was the perfect preemptive role to claim - suits your role name, explains why you can kill (this leads to another questioning: did the mafia know that there was a role name seer? Maybe Qgqqq discovered it on day 1!).

If this is true, than Ryan is innocent. Why? Because scum Catwalk wouldn't need to claim his role if the kill seer was also scum.

You know, I rather lynch Catwalk than Ryan. For roles sake, mostly.
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And c'mon! Why would Catwalk claim his role preemptively? He essentialy made his role useless, if he's a villager. I admit that his role suck from most angles you look at it. But if it hits, it has a good chance of hitting scum (remember, at that time we didn't know about the village SKs), which is an awesome result. His action makes more sense as scum than as village, if you look at the possible results coming from it, comapred to a later claim.

Hey, Xenu, you know you can send a message back to me, right? I have an opinion about who you should scan tonight and I want to say it to you in private. Please, create a simple code in the message back to me, so I can say it to you still during night 4.
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But now that I look at it, the fact that Catwalk hasn't even voted today kind of points to villager play... frown
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zak,novice,Serdoa no comments?
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Ichabod, keep in mind that we very certainly have a least 2 scum-factions. So Ryan and catwalk could both be scum, despite catwalk thinking he has to claim because of the kill-seer. Also his claim could also have happened despite him being town in thinking that it would be the better way to do it. He didn't initially explain how his ability worked at all either.

OTOH he did claim to be a killer and I have to admit, with his ability I would not have seen myself as such. I would even expect that a scan should give back negative as he is not killing, he is more or less just reflecting back, according to his words.

Lastly, I agree with you that he has to explain why he believes that he would be informed if MJW had visited him. That was asked earlier already but he never answered it.
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(January 31st, 2014, 09:53)Rowain Wrote: zak,novice,Serdoa no comments?

You realize that it is like 20-30 minutes after Ichabod started to post on the topic? You don't expect us to check the thread continuously to see if someone actually want to divert the lynch from Ryan? Because right now I'd have to see some kind of defense from Ryan or really good arguments for someone else to move from him, not just points that were in this or another form already stated.
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