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Got Philosophy and declared golden age, switching to hereditary/bureaucracy/caste/pacificism. I'll keep all those except caste at the end, still need slavery too much.

Center of the empire in a golden age



Pumping out the great people:

I considered being a dick to commodore and doing the artist up north, but put merchants there instead (with obligatory spin of the great-engineer-wheel)



Popping borders out east instead, could use the additional vision and 40% defense



Also making a great scientist in a southern fishing village (not trying to denigrate, those fishing villages bring in the cash)

Demos pre-golden age, breakeven



Demos in golden age, breakeven



Aiming at lib/econ, being flexible about what I end up with at this point though. Guilds/fued are on the way so this will hardly deny me military.

I wish I had met more people so I'd see when people got paper. Gawdzak and Mackoti could be wherever with regards to the first-to bonuses and I'd have no idea. I have scout ships moving but like... they're slow.
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Slightly changed that plan just before turn-roll, found a better way to get out GPP (and also remembered to revolt religions... that was close).

New plan involves more GPP, and lots more starving. As you can see by the much lower CY:



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Met Gawdzak, he lacks paper

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Birthed a great merchant, now getting a great artist out of Caelum. Borders popped to 40% already, giving me more security against Dreylin



Colonization force almost to the nice island I found out here (and also ran into Commodore's workboat near). Worker will hope onto galley and continue westward. No military guard, instead a trireme will stand guard to intercept incoming forces until I can whip an archer. Another trireme is following a few turns behind, will relieve the first trireme who will go exploring.



The Pictes canal is very nice, shaves turns off of moving ships between my two sets of islands (here is the following trireme)



Big fan of the war, hope this one is real.



Commodore birthed a great artist here. You can also tell from the culture split that he was def running artists, watching this turn by turn to see if he still is



A pretty picture of cottage land



Demos on 80% (was somewhat random, I was considering almost finishing machinery then decided against it and opted to save instead, I'm deliberating delaying machinery until I build 1 last quecha in an island city that needs the MP)



Obviously looking good (though in golden age). This is the first time I've been not first in land area in a while though.

Gawdzak got paper, which one usually only does if going for lib/econ. If I remember correctly he hadn't progressed any down guilds line, so probably going for lib -> nationalism. I'm going to save one more turn then go full throttle down guilds line with the idea being grab econ. Then golden age switch into probably free market/theocracy/caste, switching again at end of golden age into serfdom. At the end of current golden age I still need slavery for getting new cities up and possibly a knight rush, but I shouldn't need slavery much by the time I get econ.

The free great merchant is actually incidental tot he above plan, I'm making 2 great people in current golden age and 3/4 finishing a 3rd (scientist for bulbing or academy, depends on if I feel contested for econ). That great merchant will probably be saved for the 3 person golden age.

My sense is dreylin is a bit too competent to expect to burst down with knights (they're teching too close behind me, could easily get pikes), but we'll see once I start teching and grab machinery if I want to try to whip out a ton of horsies auto-upgrade -> knights and attack. I think a cuir era attack is likelier. Though if the plako/commodore war is real better prospects may lie to the north than to the east.
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Updates flowing quick(er) during the pb18 hiatus.

Well, this is twice now, (that worker is mine, Dreylin took it) so I think lesson learned: Dreylin/2metra/OT4E are hostile.



I wouldn't say they're being irrational, since obviously I've let them get away with it both times. Which is possibly a sign of having a good read on me (I'd say I'm rather unlikely to go on a crusade if I think I have more beneficial moves to make). But it does suggest they see our two nations as being fundamentally at odds and destined for conflict. Which is hardly a bad read on the situation. In any case, this puts a bit more weight on their end of the scale in regards to the question of "kill commodore" or "kill dreylin". Eliminating the obviously-hostile neighbor over the so far peaceable one seems preferable, all things considered.

And obviously revenge is sweet too. But all of this is still in the vague future.

Updates on colonization, barb galley injured my trireme, so it's going to have to heal back at Andromeda



Island chain continues pretty far up to our score leader Gawdzak, let's see how much of it I can get.






Actual fighting going on up north, cities being taken and razed. Good signs.

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Interesting Econ race going on here. I'm the closest to Econ itself, but I suspect Gawdzak has partially invested in Lib such that he can finish it in 1 turn and is now just trying to see what the best tech he can get with it is. And he just researched machinery/feudalism, which suggests he's aiming at econ.

Not going to deter me cause free market is still worth it, which is why I think the econ beeline is so great in RtR, the consolation prize is still worth beelining.

No other news of note and I forgot pictures. (And resurgant? PB18 will depress reporting here again).
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Gawdzak got liberalism, will presumably pick Econ once he logs in



Merchant wouldn't give me quite enough beakers on bulb, I'm 1 turn too slow



Forget why I took this shot, but still finishing up that scientist. Things are so slow whilst not in Golden Ages.



After econ going to be backfilling a lot. Need Horseback Riding, Iron Working, Masonry, Construction, and a few other things normal people have had for ages... crazyeye

Next forward-progress beeline will then need to be decided. Are we going at rifling? Astronomy? Chemistry AND Astronomy?
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Your weekly report here

Building UoS, b/c why not? Not that expensive, should pay back if I get it, and if not #failgold



GJ beating up on Furungy. Might eat the island remainders if this continues



If GJ succeeds here his civ is going to be comically undefendable. Like worse than my civ in PB18, and I thought THAT was comically undefendable.

Massive CY lead over the neighbors



But the terrorists to my east are equaling me in MFG, and I'm in a golden age!



Like really, their tech is mediocre and their CY sucks, but they have tons of MFG and will presumably turn that into an army at some point. They're basically North Korea.

But not thus far:



Beginning to build the cat stack



Demos


CY depressed by the 3 cities currently running 8+ specialists

Overview shot



Long term strat:

Neighbors - eventually I need to attack the Portuguese terrorists. I thought long and hard about trying to go for the kill in the next 15 turns by beelining rifles and drafting up a storm. I decided I can't justify it while empty islands abound and I can pick the corpse of Furungy via the sea. But it was close (see my civics choice below). Very close. But I'm going to outtech them as time passes (I already am), so as long as I'm vigilant and build a collateral stack I can defend against them pretty easily should they choose to move beyond random annoyances and actually attack me. I realistically need a navy in any case just to defend extensive number of islands, so a long land-focused beeling could be dangerous if any of GJ, Gawdzak, or Commodore decided to go for Astro.

I was being humorous with the North Korea comparison, but honestly it is pretty accurate. I've traded maps around a lot and no one seems to have their map. They have attacked any troops/workers I leave unguarded near their borders. They have absurd stacks defending single workers building farms. This sums up to one paranoid outlook on civ. 2metra is the only one of the players with a backbhistory I've read about, and this seems consistent with him anyway. Though he seems to be the member of the triplet playing the least.

Commodore has been tussling with Plako. Our border is peaceful but militarized. I have an ideal defensive position (as I've mentioned before), and intend to keep it like that unless full war starts between Plako and commodore and I see some power dips. Until then east and west seem like better paths to expansion.

Furungy appears to be dying to GJ. Will grab the two easternmost cities if it continues, they aren't actually connected by land to the rest of the civ, connected by a single mountain tile.

GJ - one of the other quasi leaders (this game appears to lack a runaway thus far). He might neighbor me soon. If he does, his empire is comically stretched out, very vulnerable to the Sirian Badass Doctrine (see: PB13, PB18 crazyeye).

This feels like a game where a quick Astro could pay dividends. I have a large naval empire, a weak neighbor over the sea to the west, and a neighbor to the east that is very coastal and has the Colossus so won't want to follow.

Gawdzak - islsands are getting pretty close to him. He has lots of points but not a lot of cities, so I don't need to drag him down or anything. I could get into an island fight with him, but don't plan on much beyond that for now.

Civics - I thought a ton about whether to grab nationalism and switch to nationhood/(serf or caste) at the end of this golden age. Nationhood would make me feel safe without slavery, though I still could use slavery on the islands to whip in infrastructure. In the end I think war isn't likely enough in the next 20 turns to justify it, the better GNP combo of bur and slavery won out. This will also let me finish developing all the islands I'm working on, which are a TON harder to get off the ground without slavery.

Triple GP Golden age will aim to switch to US/nationhood/(serf-or-caste)/(theocracy-or-FR). If I happen to have state property available I'd probably switch into that (haven't done the math, probably GNP equivelent to FM but the food on workshops and watermills is sweet), but don't mind being in FM permanently. The US is the hardest part of that above desire, I very well might want nationhood available before I have Democracy. But I will have so many towns that the hammer boost would be very very significant.

Tech - I grabbed printing press and replaceable parts because I think I'm almost certainly going to want Rifling reasonably soon, I managed to 1t both of them (bulb and overflow), and both give constant output bonuses to a significant number of my tiles so getting them sooner is better than later. Now I'm just backfilling stuff a normal person long since acquired. Got iron working 2t ago, getting HBR next, then Enginneering and Aesthetics->lit->music. I need theocracy or liberalism before the next golden age but not before, until then pacifisim is fine for getting that next golden age (and isn't actually that expensive cause of a middling expected army and no civic cost).

After filling in going for Astro and rifling seems likely, and possibly aim for an amphib assault. I'll want nationalism before next golden age, and would love to have democracy for US and SoL by then as well. And we're approaching the time where I start vaguely thinking about Communism and Physics great people, but that's at least two steps ahead for now.

But as long as I can continue expanding peacefully by sea I don't feel pressured to cash in for military right now. GJ feels like the only one who could run away in that time, but I feel like it'd be easier to deal with that by directly taking Furungy land from him than by trying to quickly eat the portugeuse.
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Also I would love it if the ports would build me a Christianity shrine before I eat them mischief
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(January 13th, 2015, 01:05)dtay Wrote: They're basically North Korea.
This made me laugh.

Great report man.
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