{SPOILERS} 2metra, Dreylin & OT4E. This is the beginning of a wonderful friendship.

[OT4E]

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4) to make colonization expedition to the middle lands where Gavagai and mackoti are going to slaughter H&K and Adrien...

I would like to go for 4, but can we do so without dtay sneak-attacking us? I imagine we'd want a blitz of 5-6 cities so that the colony became quickly self-sustaining, but that's a lot of investment heading off our shores. I doubt dtay would be planning to attack anyone but us since we've shown ourselves opportunistic and would go after him if he turned his attention to Commodore. I think it's a question of when, not if he attacks us and of course if he gets to dictate the terms then we're in trouble. The question then becomes, do we have a window?

Dtay is still planting cities and this means that he is colonizing something because he has simply no land to plant anything. I expect him to enter a conflict with somebody there. May be Furungy? I think for a long while dtay will be happy if we leave him alone (before rifles I guess)

But this is the reason we must focus on him. We must state our intentions to the world with someething more serius than 1 turn war. If we can raze any of his front cities it is worth big sacrifices. Commodore might be willing to join, but he doesnt seem to be ready to start it. If we make dtay slave/draft hard his old cities his new colonies and army will pull him back in development.

About our colonies I am not sure it can be self sufficient soon. It is far it requires buildings and protection from REM/Adrien its original owner, from desperate H&k forced to produce a lot of military or Gavagai if he manages to crush H&k once again. And it is so damn far. For like 50 turns it will only bring maintance and headacke. So I have serious doubts that it is reasonable to sail there in current environment. I dont want to provoke REM/Adrien to go for Astronomy to resist us. Only if GJ shows that he is ready to entertain them.
I think the goal is to colonize it when we reach universal sufferage and will be ready to invest heavily into development of those new lands.

Anyway there are severals steps in which we become ready to do something. Right now we can only pretend that we have army by showing the only knight we have to our both potential enemies and hope for terrifying effect.

[Dreylin]

Played the turn, nothing much to report - infrastructure going up.

[OT4E]

This is becoming interesting:

1/6/15 4:06 pm Gavagai Score increased to 652
1/6/15 4:06 pm mackoti Score decreased to 744
1/6/15 4:05 pm Gavagai Score increased to 647
1/6/15 4:05 pm mackoti Score decreased to 754

Gavagai has switched to mackoti and got 1 city from him and razed another.

Gwazdak took Nationalism, right?

[Dreylin]

I didn't check, sorry.

Are you back to play the current turn or do you need one of us to handle it?

[OT4E]

Yes, I am back and played 2 turns.

Adrien/REM got engineering and Pikeman in their Moai city, but it doesnt seem that they are going to attack us, though their power is growing. With optics and expanded borders we have better sight of surroundings, but he still can conceal coming forces.
We have almost reached mackoti's shores.

I upgraded 3 triremes. 1 corrack I want to send in the top direction where we have a lot of black spaces (may be there are some more islands?). Others are going in dtays/commodore direction. May be we find way how to use them.

I've decided to make some overflow in Wunderbar, so dont get confused by what is in production. I think we must try to make Sankor U., but real chances are small, because many ppl have paper. But most of them doesnt have any religion buildings and might skip it. And it is not built yet anyway.


I also want to hear your feedback on my plan, may be it is not the best what we can do. There are options. We can go Engineering for castles and Notre Dam first. Castles give us trade routes but they become obsolete with Economics. We can go for Printing press/Replaceable parts then.

[OT4E]

Some more info:
- Gwazdak has run his 2nd golden age, probably he wants to consume somebody with MT or may be he is rushing Democracy, what else could it be?
- Furungy got Paper
- dtay has 59 christian citizen
- GJ is on theocracy but still got our religion

Here is the pic of dtay/commodore front:


Commodore started bringing catapults there, but he doesnt seem to be preparing for something.

[Dreylin]

Sankore is a good target - if we think there's a decent chance we can still grab it - Paper is a necessary tech for sure, and it sounds like we should get a decent discount on the research.

Of course the other one we want is Spiral Minaret at Divine Right and that probably is worth actively chasing - I assume that Islam hasn't fallen yet?

How are we doing at generating a Prophet to get our Shrine up and running? That will be a huge boost when we get it!

It might also be good to put some of these wonders in locations other than Wunderbar. It is still a border city and if dtay attacked and took it we would be pretty hosed.

[OT4E]

Unfortunately we have just finished courthouse in Wunderbar, it could bring us the best overflow. Paper is cheap but I still want to make it cheaper by teching Civil Service first.

Divine Right is very expensive and only true tech leaders can afford it. We are technological backwards and we cant let the gap between us and other civs grow. Though after Economics we can go to Nationalism through Divine Right instead of Philosophy or may be even have both.

I put 2nd temple in queue for the shrine. We will have good chance for GP with in like 20-25 turns. Of course the shrine is good, it gives 2 hammers with AP

[OT4E]

Our spy got finally caught. Dtay run his 2nd golden age too and adopted Free Market+Caste System. He has got +665 per turn.

Paper in 3.

[OT4E]

Dtay has restored his pressure on us with culture, so probably we cant rely on that forest for Sankor. Well at least he has to put artists instead of working mighty workshops.


We have 3rd production with 2 golden ages, so we have top base production. Here is our graph. Dont be very excited with GNP, because we are heading CS with 40% for base prerequisites and known by everyone for sure.


But anyway we are making 574 beakers per turn on 100% with 216 gold of expenses or 344 beakers with +2, this means that we are able to reach Economics in about 17 turns from now.

Btw Mackoti was first at it, 1 turn before Gwazdak has taken Liberalism. But right now he is busy: