January 15th, 2015, 00:23
(This post was last modified: January 15th, 2015, 00:24 by Donovan Zoi.)
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(January 15th, 2015, 00:05)luddite Wrote: So it sounds like Jojo really wants to drop out either way. The bigger issue is with Elkad, who really wants espionage on. And yeah, we did vote on tgat, and its hard to catch every little thing on turn 0 when you're also busy simming starts and such. I'm willing to restart for his sake. Although I still don't know what to do about the extra prerequisite beakers from having techs at the start.
That is a fair concern that both you and Grimace have. However, I think that this is offset by the decision of giving us all another crack at getting at the same huts to see if we get a tech next time. While no solution is going to please each of us here, I believe this is the closest we are going to get.
If Thoth gets to keep his 3 techs (his only condition to approve a restart), then that would make the vote 6-4 for restart along with yourself. With 3 of the remaining 4 having pretty neutral stances on this issue, I think it's safe to say that the only loser here is Commodore.
Commodore has two minutes to post a rebuttal. Otherwise I think we can get down to business. 
January 15th, 2015, 00:40
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Since Elkad chose his civ with espionage on in mind, I see that as a good argument for a restart.
January 15th, 2015, 01:15
(This post was last modified: January 15th, 2015, 01:19 by luddite.)
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Elkad/Thoth- is it possible for you to just work a suboptimal tile that would drop commerce for a few turns, to make up for having the pre-req bonus at the beginning?
edit- maybe that question is spoilerish? Don't answer if you think it will give away your start.
January 15th, 2015, 01:40
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Thoth could just divert a few beakers into espionage when replaying.
I have to run.
January 15th, 2015, 01:40
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(January 14th, 2015, 23:57)SevenSpirits Wrote: (January 14th, 2015, 23:13)Grimace Wrote: I totally understand GJ's point of view because we got a low-probability event (someone getting 3 techs? I've never gotten that in an SP game!) and it definitely gives that player a huge advantage.
For the record, this isn't really a low probability event. If all 12 players each pop 4 huts, the odds of at least one of the players getting 3-4 techs is about 33%. This is what happens when you play with huts. It adds some variance to starts.
*pushes up glasses* Errm, actually, the probability of at least 1 player getting 3 or 4 techs out of 4 huts is only, *picks nose and flicks it*, 28.17%, assuming they pop every hut with a scout and before turn 10. 
January 15th, 2015, 02:08
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(January 15th, 2015, 01:40)novice Wrote: Thoth could just divert a few beakers into espionage when replaying.
That'd be fine with me, although pedantically it does give him a few more espionage points than he would have otherwise.
January 15th, 2015, 02:11
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(January 15th, 2015, 02:08)luddite Wrote: (January 15th, 2015, 01:40)novice Wrote: Thoth could just divert a few beakers into espionage when replaying.
That'd be fine with me, although pedantically it does give him a few more espionage points than he would have otherwise.
I thought that was meant to be a sarcastic comment. 
January 15th, 2015, 04:28
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My first preference is to restart from scratch, without replicating hut results
My second preference is to play on
January 15th, 2015, 04:59
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I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but all of you guys are going to get to re-roll your bad hut results(assuming no tech=bad result) if you restart. Seems like that might be worth 6b?
January 15th, 2015, 05:16
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I went to bed before the restart lobby whipped enough votes to pass the proposal. It's 5AM for me, I can't do anything about the restart until after 8PM my time tonight. If you guys can line up someone to prepare the worldbuilder file before then go right ahead. Otherwise I'll do it tonight.
If you guys want to make it easy on me please post a screenshot of your world map and F6 screen so I can figure out what huts to remove. If you want to be really nice you can place a sign on the tile noting which hut(s) blessed you with a free tech or scout (was there any other hut results being kept?). Thanks.
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