January 15th, 2015, 20:20
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(January 15th, 2015, 16:18)SevenSpirits Wrote: In PBEM11 we needed to turn barbarians off mid-game, when it was discovered they were on. We did this by creating a custom DLL file that turned off the NO BARBS setting and removed all barbs from the map when the game was loaded with it. I think we can do the same here and thereby turn off NO ESPIONAGE mid-game.
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I am going to work now. If I get unanimous approval for this plan from the players, and someone points me to the correct mod source files, and someone sends me the current save, and no one points out that there's something I'm missing that will make it not work with the mod, I will work on it when I next have time.
I'm not the czar of anything but this solution is far and away the best in terms of not changing the existing game state. It only fixes the No Espionage setting and doesn't undo any random actions that would have required me to do a lot of work figuring things out and adjusting the T0 WB save. Simply fixing the existing game is the solution least likely to introduce new problems (like me editing in the wrong amount of gold/tech/scouts/revealed map/whatever because only a few of the players put up screenshots for the current turn). So, with zero authority, I proclaim Seven's solution as being the one we're going with, if he's still willing to do it after reading this whole thread. I don't understand how anyone could be opposed to this option, it only fixes the specific problem that caused this whole "discussion."
Seven, I'll save the game and send you the current save. I can't speak to the mod source files or whether or not your fix can work, sorry. Let me know if/how I can help.
Everybody else...really...if you find yourself writing a post that's just going to piss someone else off, don't post it. This thread needs to cool off and since there isn't really anything else tech threadish to do here until there's a new turn to play, just let it go for a little while. In the meantime you guys can all send Seven boxes of Internet cookies, or Amazon gift cards, or whatever his bounty of choice is.
And everybody lighten up. Less words, more emoticons!
January 15th, 2015, 20:45
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(January 15th, 2015, 19:04)yuris125 Wrote: So.. is the game still alive?
The game is paused and should remain so until Seven has had a chance to work his magic. Basically no one should log in to do anything because if you do you're going to have to redo it later since I've already sent the current save to Seven. Thanks.
January 15th, 2015, 20:50
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(January 15th, 2015, 20:45)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: (January 15th, 2015, 19:04)yuris125 Wrote: So.. is the game still alive?
The game is paused and should remain so until Seven has had a chance to work his magic. Basically no one should log in to do anything because if you do you're going to have to redo it later since I've already sent the current save to Seven. Thanks. Subs needed for Krill/Thoth. It's doable, good micro for Joao/HRE and three tech for Sury/France.
January 15th, 2015, 22:20
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I think it's worth confirming with the remaining players who haven't explicitly withdrawn that they are willing to play on before seven spends any more time. I'm willing to play on if everyone else is.
January 15th, 2015, 22:24
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Still willing. Incidentally, in my original post I said "no way to just flip the bit?", because I knew it had been done for other settings in the past as Seven just proposed here.
Besides the game here, I think someone from here at RB rescued a game I was in on CFC that way too. I think in that one it was a failure to check "take over AI", not discovered until far into the game after a player disappeared or something.
January 15th, 2015, 22:28
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I'm in. I am hoping that THREAD_CHARACTER_COUNT_EXCEEDED
January 15th, 2015, 22:29
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January 15th, 2015, 22:31
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(January 15th, 2015, 22:29)Grimace Wrote: I'm still in.
January 15th, 2015, 23:00
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January 16th, 2015, 00:27
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If it turns out that you /really/ need additional subs (Joey's still quit, right?) I would be willing to help out.
(I was/am looking forward to globally lurking this one from the start, but since you can't do that if the game dies then I can let my excitement over a new game take over instead).
My only condition would be that Krill stays around and criticises the hell out of my play...
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